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re: Is Gen Z etc totally out of touch about salaries?

Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:52 pm to
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Living in Alaska with this kind of inflation is almost totally unsustainable unless there are two people working in a family.


Yeah, particularly here.

This isn't a place for poor people but hell, the jobs are plentiful here. I don't know how you stay poor in a place like this town unless it choice. The unemployment rate is kind of self regulating, people leave when jobs start to wane.

I was in the ER a couple weeks ago and it was a damn disaster in there. So short staffed and they pay well.
Posted by Jsand43
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:54 pm to
They pay well by your standard, or the current economy standard?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:56 pm to
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Stop trying to use anecdotal evidence


I find it refreshing to know most people I personally know and associate are so special they can succeed in this environment. Superhumans, all of them. Even the Millennials.
Feel better? Im sure youre not alone in your misery.

Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:56 pm to
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This isn't a place for poor people but hell, the jobs are plentiful here. I don't know how you stay poor in a place like this town unless it choice. The unemployment rate is kind of self regulating, people leave when jobs start to wane.


I wondered that too, but a lot of people out there just don't have any work ethic.

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I was in the ER a couple weeks ago and it was a damn disaster in there. So short staffed and they pay well.



A lot of that has to do with the healthcare admin in Alaska being so shitty. Another part is the focus on only hiring traveling nurses at more $$$$ instead of focusing on increasing $ for existing staff to stay longer than 6 months - 2 years.
This post was edited on 5/22/22 at 2:00 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:57 pm to
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And the small amount that are, how many of those are being snatched up with above asking cash offers by PE?
Right. That is what happens in a bubble. Meanwhile, FOMO drives buyers. If someone is struggling to get a fair price on a starter home right now, it is probably a great time to rent, and let prices normalize over a couple of years.

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that's just your opinion
Well, here's the chart ...



So, what's your opinion?


Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:58 pm to
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We're filling a position that was previously held by a 22 yr old guy who had no degree or experience. He still lived at home. He showed up late all the time, called in "sick" often, yet complained that he never had enough time saved up for vacation (b/c when he called in sick, his PTO was used until he had none left and then the company allows you to go negative up to 40hrs).

He did buy that $1500 folding Samsung phone, bought a Subaru WRX that he then modded to no end, and spent $10+ for lunch everyday at fast food places.

We finally let him go when he no called no showed twice. He called in to inquire about his last paycheck, but I'm pretty sure he owed the company money based on his borrowing of PTO time.

If he'd have been a good employee, he'd have been promoted within the year.



Exactly. That job sucks and that one bum could only handle doing it for so long. He was so miserable that the had to call in sick a bunch.
This post was edited on 5/22/22 at 1:59 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290876 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:58 pm to
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I've mentioned the opening to some twenty-something's I know and I've been asked if we're looking for felons at that starting wage? Posted on an online forum for the area and got the same responses. They said those are slave wages


These kids expect $25 hr+ to do menial tasks in an entry level warehouse position.


Brether, I am in the same boat but we are offering even more than $15.

$15 isnt shite and twenty somethings aren’t really kids


But on another note, they all think they can get rich fast. Go viral, invest in crypto, whatever. Or they their way into a suit job is to sit in a cubicle. They do not realize entry level positions can pay off, & pay off fast, if you are competent.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:58 pm to
Good god young workers are so fricked



Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:59 pm to
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They pay well by your standard, or the current economy standard?



During/after the pandemic, Alaska was paying nurses and drs and RIDICOULOUS amount of money and incentives for them to come up and work for 6 months to 2 years. Even before the pandemic is was worth somebody's time and effort to move to AK to work for a year or two. In certain parts of the State , you could clear off a ton of debt working these jobs.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299683 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:59 pm to
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A lot of that has to do with the healthcare admin in Alaska being so shitty


Good friend was the CEO of the regional health org, and he left for less pay in Oklahoma though he loved it here. The healthcare system here is pretty shitty, I got a $110k Airlift Northwest plane ride to Seattle because the ER physician couldn't read the MRI right a few years ago.

ALl the execs split the municipal hospital, its in bad shape. My oncologist comes up once a month from Seattle.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:59 pm to
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So, what's your opinion?



My opinion is I'm about to be 34, hopefully getting engaged soon, and make over 110k a year. For Denver, I literally couldn't get anything approaching a house that I wouldn't eventually lose my shirt so I'm forced to move to another part of the country, Charlotte. I'm going to do what all the Californians are doing in Denver to Charlotte, overpay for a house knowing that just baseline inflation at this point will mean it's better than renting.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 2:00 pm to
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big employee purchase discounts on cars(we have fleet purchasing prices with Chevy, Toyota, and Ford), HP computers,


Woah - how long do I have to work there before I qualify for this?
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 2:01 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/22/22 at 2:01 pm
Posted by pelicansfan123
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 2:01 pm to
When it comes to salaries, I don't think you can generalize very much.

I'm at a job where people are leaving left and right because we're overworked, underpaid, and have extra responsibilities that make the job unpleasant. As it's a customer-facing position, you have to deal with BS from both the customers and the admin who puts up a lot of unnecessary red tape and then wonders why employees are burning out.

I would hate to be ridiculed for wanting better just because the benefits of the position are good.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299683 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 2:02 pm to
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Another part is the focus on only hiring traveling nurses at more $$$$


Two new neighbors are travel nurses, they rented a condo next to ours and are doing the Ironman Triathlon in town this summer. They make ridiculous money here.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 2:02 pm to
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Right. That is what happens in a bubble. Meanwhile, FOMO drives buyers. If someone is struggling to get a fair price on a starter home right now, it is probably a great time to rent, and let prices normalize over a couple of years.

We'll have a housing correction before too long. Median household income in the US is 67k and the average home is 270k. That's not sustainable long term, especially in a rising rate environment.

Money has been almost free to borrow for about 15 years but that's coming to an end.
This post was edited on 5/22/22 at 2:04 pm
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 2:02 pm to
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Are these people retarded?


They are a part of an entitled generation where everyone gets a trophy, there is a celebration of every grade level like it’s a great accomplishment to move from 2nd to 3rd grade, and are basically just spoiled brats that think they deserve to be paid just for being born.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15295 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 2:04 pm to
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Two new neighbors are travel nurses, they rented a condo next to ours and are doing the Ironman Triathlon in town this summer. They make ridiculous money here.



Tried to convince some family members to move while I was up there to take jobs to help them pay off some debt they had accumulated. None of them would take the leap. Too afraid of change.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 2:04 pm to
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We'll have a housing correction before too long. Median household income in the US is 67k and the average home is 270k. That's not sustainable long term, especially in a rising rate environment.



People keep saying this, but houses keep getting bought over asking. Inflation and rates will slow down the prices, but we just don't have enough houses in the market right now, and that's not something that gets fixed overnight. By the time the houses are built, overall inflation is going to keep the markets from crashing.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111460 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 2:05 pm to
I would think entitled would be telling someone they need to work harder and longer just to make far less then what they made themselves. That seems entitled….
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