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re: Is bullying really a problem?

Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:32 pm to
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:32 pm to
This wreaks of eighties style Nancy Reagan busy body bullshite but I'd honestly rather see the government waste money on a war against bullying than a war against drugs.

Dumb parents need to feel like they're fighting for some cause to protect their kids. If this is the new fight then have at it, it'll be less costly and destructive than the last one. As long as we don't get mandatory minimum sentencing for bullies, I don't give a shite.
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
34743 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:33 pm to
When I was growing up back in the dark ages, people used to try that. My daddy told me to kick their arse. So I did, then there was no more problem. When he got beat up by a girl, all his friends turned to harassing him and they all left me alone.

Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:33 pm to

Can't believe this is being asked.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

My little brother(the mentally challenged one) was shoved and locked into a locker by a bully at his school when he was in midd


I was shoved and locked in lockers all the time. I was also ringed by the seniors and had my underware pulled up over my head. That was part of junior high. Back in those days it wasn't bullying. It was hazing and it was tolerated.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:34 pm to
Who knows what happened there ? My parents were told someone would help him get around that first day. Things did get much better for him at that school after that incident and the locker incident. He seemed to actually enjoy it there at one point.


Just dont know why any kid would target him. It's very obvious he is mentally challenged. He doesn't talk much cause he has a speech issue. He's just always very quiet and does his own thing, making sure not to bother anyone else.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37671 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:35 pm to
quote:

Do you feel that way about people who lose their jobs as a result of groups of anonymous users of social media?


It's fricked up but I don't know if that qualifies as bullying.



synonyms: persecute, oppress, tyrannize, browbeat, harass, torment, intimidate, strong-arm, dominate


I think anonymously going after someone with the intention of making them lose their job (especially for things said in private or in jest by a person who is not in public office) is a pretty obvious case of bullying.

There are a lot of stories of adults who have had their lives destroyed by this type of behavior.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33951 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:35 pm to
quote:

My little brother(the mentally challenged one) was shoved and locked into a locker by a bully at his school when he was in middle school. I


That's a real bully and an a-hole. I think real bullies are the ones that pick on the weakest kids.

I had a boss like that for about six months. He knew who he could say mean things to and get away with it. Other people in the office advised them to start keeping records of things he said. Eventually, he was fired for it.

In high school some of the a-holes on the football team made the managers lay down up in the overhead racks on the Trailways buses we took to away games. Some of the trips took hours and they'd only let them come down to go to the bathroom. One of those kids became the Town Marshall (chief of police) and the other is a golf pro that worked in Austria for eight or ten years.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:36 pm to
So you don't see anything wrong with that being done to someone that is clearly mentally challenged?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:37 pm to
Let me add that I was not mentally challenged and that is fricked up nurse. I'm sorry to hear that.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:38 pm to
See above. Sorry. I missed the mentally challenged part.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:40 pm to
Bullying is a parenting problem.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:40 pm to
Nah. It used to be much worse. People have just been conditioned to accept any perceived slight as "bullying"
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106009 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:40 pm to
quote:

Actually agree a lot with this. When I was a kid, fighting usually put an end to the issue one way or the other. Even if the kid getting bullied didn't necessarily "win" the fight, the act of fighting back would usually cause the antagonist to just move on as their mark was now standing up for themselves. I got bullied by a much larger kid in grade school, as I was probably the smallest boy in the class, but as soon as I tackled him after he threw a football at recess and we fought probably 90+ percent of the class was instantly on my side including most of his friends. He even became one of my better school friends later on.


Two things about fighting now:

The zero tolerance policies, where a kid gets punished even if they're not the instigator. There are usually exception clauses if you're in fear for your personal safety, but it's still drummed in to your head not to fight under any circumstances.

And it used to be that a bullied kid could gain some respect by fighting back. He might get the worst of it, but he'd be left alone. Now it's acceptable to jump in and gang up on somebody, so you're not just fighting the bully, you're fighting his friends too, and you end up in the hospital instead of a black eye and a bloody nose.

This from relatives in the education field.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
21030 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:40 pm to
When I was in the 7th grade one guy, every day got his arse beat after lunch.

Different guy every day. We toughened up, till one guy whined to the teachers and 15 of us got busted, the old 2 hand swing knock your arse over the desk busted.

The next day he got it twice as bad. We got busted again. After that a teacher walked him to class till he transferred a month later.

Dunno what happened to the loser, don't care either.

Kids are vicious, but the world isn't going to walk you to class every day so nothing can harm you.

Best to learn how to toughen up young. As the smallest guy in the class I had to learn that lesson fast. But even the biggest respected those who fight back.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:41 pm to
I saw

Kids that age were always mean and will always continue to be mean. They just have more effective ways today to torment other kids.
Posted by bigberg2000
houston, from chalmette
Member since Sep 2005
70807 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:41 pm to
Yeah like Saint said I wouldn't mess with a mentally challenged kid and hope I would have done something if I witnessed it. That crosses the line.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:41 pm to
Parenting is certainly a part of it. Kids just being mean and some being really mean is another part. Most bullying imo stems from the bullies own insecurity.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
108706 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:42 pm to
Idiot
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:43 pm to
quote:

Kids just being mean and some being really mean is another part. Most bullying imo stems from the bullies own insecurity.


And a shitty home life. The biggest bully in my grade had parents that both went to prison, and then he eventually went to prison for selling cocaine as well. Hated him in high school, but now I feel a bit bad for him.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:43 pm to
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