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re: Is bullying really a problem?

Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:45 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:45 pm to
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one guy whined to the teachers and 15 of us got busted


Yeah, stay classy. For 15 kids to be beating up someone every day in 7th grade, you all had to be a big bunch of redneck trashballs. I'm going to guess zero of you graduated from college.
This post was edited on 10/27/16 at 5:47 pm
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33951 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:47 pm to
Do those zero tolerance policies apply to elementary school kids? Seems a little ridiculous to have those policies for kids that young.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:48 pm to
Yes they do.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:49 pm to
There used to be a neighborhood kid that was older than all of us. He would sit in his driveway and sometimes hide in the garage wait for us to drive by on our bikes. Sometimes even throw tennis balls basketball soccer balls at us. He will try to catch Us and pin down spit in our face give us wedgies beat up on us whatever just a big a-hole bully. Now he's fat bald married to some fat chick, has three fat kids and he's a fricking loser and I couldn't be more happy to see it bullies definitely get what they deserve later in life
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61479 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:50 pm to
Bullying was never a big deal when I was in middle and high school. But then again, I didn't spend time with the poors.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:51 pm to
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There will always be bullies, as long as there are parents that do a poor job. Empathy is learned. Some people do a poor job teaching their kids to treat others as they want to be treated.


Much of it is biological. Some people just don't have the capacity to feel, and get enjoyment out of being mean. Some kids who were adopted young have shown that sometimes the best parenting cannot help
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33951 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:52 pm to
The Town Marshall and European golf pro I talked about where the kids that got bullied, not the bullies. I would imagine the bullies are still living in Hooterville, most likely in mobile homes.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:53 pm to
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Bullying was never a big deal when I was in middle and high school. But then again, I didn't spend time with the poors.



Yeah, we had gangs when I was in elementary, but aside from mental bullying, there was definitely no physical bullying in middle or high school. That was just trashy as shite. If it got to the point where 15 kids in 7th grade were beating up one guy, no matter how much we disliked him, I'd like to think my school would have gotten together and either rat on them or reenacted this scene from Bad Santa to the bullies: LINK
This post was edited on 10/27/16 at 5:55 pm
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:55 pm to
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lifshoals


How is sophomore year going? JV football team worth a shite?
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72426 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:56 pm to
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Two things about fighting now:

The zero tolerance policies, where a kid gets punished even if they're not the instigator. There are usually exception clauses if you're in fear for your personal safety, but it's still drummed in to your head not to fight under any circumstances.

And it used to be that a bullied kid could gain some respect by fighting back. He might get the worst of it, but he'd be left alone. Now it's acceptable to jump in and gang up on somebody, so you're not just fighting the bully, you're fighting his friends too, and you end up in the hospital instead of a black eye and a bloody nose.

This from relatives in the education field.




For sure. I wasn't intending for it to sound that that was the easy way to handle it now. I actually think it was easier 25 years ago. Obviously violence isn't always the answer but you wonder if some of these zero tolerance policies actually make the issue worse in the long term than if kids could just duke it out for 30 seconds,go to detention together and then be done with it.

Being in detention for a week with my "bully" was actually what made us friends longterm.

As far as the little pack mentality everyone jump in bullshite, I'd assume that's more a reflection of kids having shitty parenting. Who knows.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61479 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:56 pm to
If a mentally or physically retarded kid got picked on at my middle school he would have been handled by both the school and students.
This post was edited on 10/27/16 at 5:57 pm
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19317 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:56 pm to
No
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:58 pm to
You're fricking retarded if you don't believe bullying isn't an issue in this country. There is bullying literally everywhere, in any environment, in any age group. It is absolutely a problem. Also if your kids say there isn't any bullying, then they're fricking lying. Big time.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:59 pm to
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If a mentally or physically retarded kid got picked on at my middle school he would have been handled by both the school and students.



Seriously, if a bunch of 7th graders were pulling this shite in my junior high, feel pretty confident the 8th and 9th graders would have kicked the dog shite out of them.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61479 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:59 pm to
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This wreaks of eighties style Nancy Reagan busy body bullshite
that's exactly what it is

The bullying epidemic is as real as the choking game or satanism as far as I'm concerned
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36487 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 6:03 pm to
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Is fricking smash someone's face or get mine smashed if I was to witness someone doing that to a mentally challenged kid.


These people must have gone to really shitty schools. At my school and, from I've seen, my kids school, mentally challenged kids were treated with kid gloves and nobody messed with them at all.
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
23471 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 6:04 pm to
Teach your kids to fight, then no
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36487 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 6:05 pm to
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Do you believe the only things that exist are things you have personally observed?


No, that's why I'm asking the question. To find out what other people have observed.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36487 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 6:13 pm to
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You're fricking retarded if you don't believe bullying isn't an issue in this country. There is bullying literally everywhere, in any environment, in any age group. It is absolutely a problem. Also if your kids say there isn't any bullying, then they're fricking lying. Big time.


Don't project your shitty town/school onto me. And I don't think my college kids would lie to protect some high school bully from 4 years ago.

I also don't think middle school girls being bitches to each other is bullying. I've seen plenty of that.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 6:15 pm to
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I also don't think middle school girls being bitches to each other is bullying. I've seen plenty of that.



Aside from what that redneck piece of trash poster said on the last page, its the worst bullying possible. Bullying with guys they just usually want to kick their arse for a bit, and then leave them alone for a while. They don't care what they get up to on the side. Girls are much crueler and truly want to ruin the person's life. They'll lie and manipulate and make them feel like they are horrible pieces of shite. It's definitely bullying.
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