re: Is anyone besides me in favor of much more liberal application of death penalty

All violent sex assault...kidnapping...armed robbery...home invasion...child abuse should be punished by death...immediately after trial.

There was a story on the news yesterday about some 18 to 20 year old's that beat an 81 year old woman to death for no reason other than just to do it.

Those 3 should be hung in front of national TV audience.

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Death penalty cases from a long time ago relied on eye witnesses, who can be confused or mistaken, and circumstantial evidence, which can mislead.

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Which are all still admissible in court. That hasn't changed. The problem is not with the penalty, but the system. How many POS DA's continue prosecution of cases because they think they can win even though they know justice isn't being served? Do you think prosecutorial misconduct has decreased? The system is obviously not perfect, but the one we have. If it was perfect I would totally agree with you.

Are you saying that no innocent men have ever been found guilty? Or that LA has executed no innocent men? How many innocent men are on death row right now?

The Derek Todd Lee type cases are the ones that get all the press. The ones that don't are here and here.

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HOUSTON — When George McFarland was accused of robbing and killing a neighborhood grocery owner, he took the advice of an acquaintance and hired longtime criminal lawyer John E. Benn. That may prove to be a fatal mistake.

Benn was 72 years old and had not handled a capital murder trial for at least 19 years. Nor did he jump headlong into the new case--he spent four hours preparing for the 1992 trial. Benn did not examine the crime scene, interviewed no witnesses, prepared no motions, did not request that any subpoenas be issued, relied solely on what was in the prosecutor's file, and visited his client only twice.

During the 17-day trial, Benn's performance took a turn for the worse: He fell asleep.

"Benn slept during great portions of the witness testimony," juror Mary Louisa Jensen said in an affidavit five years later. "It was so blatant and disgusting that it was the subject of conversation within the jury panel a couple of times."

Months after the trial ended with a conviction and death sentence, Benn was asked at a court hearing about his snoozing. "I'm 72 years old," he said. "I customarily take a short nap in the afternoon."

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The Texas Court of Criminal Appeals has ruled that a man whose attorney slept through portions of his 1992 death penalty trial should not get a new trial because he had another less experienced attorney who remained awake.  In its ruling, the Court denied George McFarland's (pictured) claim of ineffectiveness of counsel and upheld his death sentence. "We conclude that, although one of his attorneys slept through portions of his trial, applicant was not deprived of the assistance of counsel under the Sixth Amendment because his second attorney was present and an active advocate at all times," wrote Judge Cathy Cochran. 

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He's still on death row.

Virtually no way they can be wrong right?

The problem with the current system is that even if someone is convicted, they sit on death row for 20+ years so it doesn't serve as the deterrent as intended.

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Having someone spend the rest of their lives in jail is cheaper

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Say what?

Yes, if I had faith giving the government great power wouldn't result in a fascist take over and used a a tool to eliminate enemies of the state.

I have to admit if I could be a dictator for a couple months, I'd do a lot of good. There'd be a trail of dead bodies in my wake. That would start with pedophiles. I don't give a flying rats arse shite about their civil rights or their mental anguish. If they're found guilty of hurting a child, shoot them in their fricking heads. And anyone found guilty of raping a child gets fricked the arse with a baseball bat.
And now we come to abortion. I'm so fricking tired of hearing "it's my body and it's my choice." Yeah it's your choice about having a breast job or having a tummy tuck. But when you're carrying a baby IT'S NOT ABOUT JUST YOU ANYMORE. If you've been a victim of rape then I'm sorry. Shoot the fricker in the nuts and place your baby for adoption. That little baby will make someone somewhere very happy and it will have a chance to live a life.
Drunk/dui drivers that kill and mame don't need counseling; they need execution.
And I'm not talking about people that have a stroke or cardiac event that end up killing. I am talking about idiots that get drunk or high and then operate motor vehicles and end up killing. Why the hell should some illegal alien be allowed to live after he/she gets tanked up and kills with their car?
I could go on but my points been made.

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used to work in the service industry and interacted with 100s of people per day and one of the things I learned about this world is that there are a ton of shitty and completely worthless people.

Why are we only executing first degree murderers? Why not execute the guy that kills 57 dogs, or a 50 something career criminal that has been in and out of jail their whole adult life? Why can't we invoke some "detriment to society" law where if someone is just a piece of shite we can get rid of them?

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We may decide to add those that devalue human life to that list at some point. That may not work out so well for you?

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frick this political correctness bullshite, there are way too many scumbags in our country it's time we start eradicating the ones that engage in criminal behavior.

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I'd vote for you.

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. And anyone found guilty of raping a child gets fricked the arse with a baseball bat.

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Would you like to do the honors on these cases?

Maybe you should move to Saudi Arabia or Iran, they seem a lot more in line with your political philosophies.