re: Is anyone besides me in favor of much more liberal application of death penalty

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There was a story on the news yesterday about some 18 to 20 year old's that beat an 81 year old woman to death for no reason other than just to do it.

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So should the pieces of shite that set Jessica Chambers on fire. Or the crazy woman that ran over 30+ people this wk. What about the murders and rape of Channon Christan and Chris Newsom?

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On January 6, 2007, Newsom and Christian were abducted at gunpoint in an apartment complex parking lot and taken to what Witt calls a "house of horrors" where they were beaten, tortured, sexually assaulted, and murdered. Five people (four men and one woman) were charged and convicted for the crime. But when it was discovered that the judge in the case had a drug addiction, the killers took advantage of the justice system.

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Christian and Newsom disappeared Jan. 6, 2007, from the Washington Ridge apartment complex where Christian's best friend lived.

Hours later, Newsom's body was found alongside railroad tracks near Chipman Street in East Knoxville. He had been raped with an object and then shot three times. The final shot was delivered execution style.

He had been gagged with a sock stuffed in his mouth. His ankles were bound with his own belt. His hands were secured behind his back. His face was wrapped in a bandanna. His head was covered with a sweatshirt tied around his neck with shoestrings.

Forensic evidence showed that he had been raped in the final hours of his life. He was forced to walk barefoot to the railroad tracks that ran parallel to Chipman Street and shot in the neck and back. As Newsom lay paralyzed on the ground, the muzzle of a .22-caliber gun was placed against his covered head and fired. His body would later be wrapped up in a comforter, doused in gasoline and set afire.

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And what happened to her?

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Christian, meanwhile, was tied up inside the Chipman Street house of Davidson, a stranger to her. She was repeatedly raped orally, vaginally and rectally. At some point, she was savagely attacked in her genital region, either kicked or beaten with an object.

She suffered two blows to the head and was dragged into the carpeted living room of Davidson's Chipman Street home. Bleach was sprayed down her throat, an apparent effort to destroy DNA evidence.

She was hogtied with strips of fabric from a bedding set. Still alive, her body was encased in black garbage bags and her head wrapped in a white plastic grocery bag. Christian was then stuffed inside a trash can and left to die, slowly suffocating.

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Meanhwhile, the pieces of fricking shite that did this in 2-0-0-7 ARE STILL frickING ALIVE! Only ONE received the death penalty and just appealed this year. He is STILL ALIVE! They are all STILL ALIVE!

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Anyone that doesnt agree with having stronger and swifter death penalty laws are simply ignorant to how cruel this world really is.

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Why not execute the guy that kills 57 dogs

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So... should all the people who kill cats be executed?

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I think he is saying that there is a line there that needs to be defined when talking about executing people. And I agree. I don't believe you should kill a human bc they killed an animal.

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Exactly. Who is anyone to say killing a dog is not okay but killing birds, cats and fish (all pets) is perfectly okay? Executing someone for killing animals is way over the line.

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That is the whole point. We really need to look at how our justice system works and fix.

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I agreed with you up to here...

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F their rights. What about the victims right to live? All of these loopholes need to be closed and the entire system needs to be revamped. If we start having speedy trials and faster executions, it would have a great impact on our society overall.

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And you lost me shortly afterward.

Executing anyone off the street doesn't constitute justice. It'll probably score political points, but it's not going to solve any problems.

Theres far too much to gain by scoring political points with a death penalty conviction-so much that often more difficult suspects to convict are overlooked in favor of easier convictions. I don't have enough faith in our judicial system for them to get it right. I suspect you don't either, yet you think that they are so good at getting the bad guy, that you're willing to cut corners to get to the gallows.

Honest question- are you willing to execute innocent people in the process of executing the bad guys too? If so, how many bad guys are worth one innocent life?

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I think he is saying that there is a line there that needs to be defined when talking about executing people. And I agree. I don't believe you should kill a human bc they killed an animal.

Exactly. Who is anyone to say killing a dog is not okay but killing birds, cats and fish (all pets) is perfectly okay? Executing someone for killing animals is way over the line.

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its not the single act of killing a dog. its the act and method of killing 57 dogs. as someone else said, it doesn't matter if its a dog or a deer or any other animal. any human being that feels the need to poison and shoot 57 dogs(or any other animal) for enjoyment does not serve any purpose in this world.

Hell yeah! The world is overpopulated and too many people are assholes. People who continually cause trouble, or people who don't contribute when they have the ability to should be put down like animals

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Why not execute the guy that kills 57 dogs

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He doesn't deserve to die.

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or a 50 something career criminal that has been in and out of jail their whole adult life? 

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You're a fricking psychopath. Why stop there? Lets kill everyone on welfare and slaughter the homeless. They just take up room and use our resources.

Firing squad for the lot of um.

No..I would not....like to have the "honors" as you call them. That is unless it was my child that was victimized. In that case I would do it with glee.

If your child was victimized I would bet you'd want vengeance.

If we want to improve our society we wouldn't prioritize applying the death penalty to some blue collar schmuck who killed someone with his bare hands in a fit of rage,

We'd apply it to the white collar criminals who (with forethought and indifference to the lives of many others) embezzle millions, impoverishing hundreds or thousands of people. Those bankruptcies end lives when people lose homes, marriages, college educations for their children, health care, self esteem, and the labor of their lifetimes. Those are the people we should talk about executing if we want to improve our society. As it happens we often tend to let them out with a slap on the wrist and a minimum of time served.