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re: Is alligator overpopulation a huge problem, or no?

Posted on 2/13/25 at 7:47 am to
Posted by terriblegreen
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 7:47 am to
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Farmed gator meat and hides has driven down the price of wild caught resulting in fewer people out hunting the wild caught.


And the market drives the price. If Italy isn't buying hides for watch bands, shoes etc, then they buyers aren't buying. Over they years, it has become much harder to sell gators in my experience. It used to be very easy.... pull up and they pay you. Now they inspect the shite out of them. Some places won't pay you until they get paid. It's a pain in the arse. I used to sell every year. Now I just clean them myself and keep the meat.

I used to get 3 tags a year for my place. Then when Swamp People came out, I was reduced to 2. I'm assuming because there was more demand for tags from people who watch the show.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 7:48 am to
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I hope we never get the python problem.
too cold
Posted by terriblegreen
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 7:49 am to
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Wait seriously?


When they had Troy Landry and the other swamp people go to florida for a show, they only were allowed to catch them. I never understood why they couldn't just kill them.
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 7:50 am to
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Also, I wonder if states and municipalities cover up alligator attacks as much as they can (and crocodiles in Florida) because they don't want tourism affected? Like the mayor in Jaws


what?
Posted by jorconalx
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 7:57 am to
quote:

Also, I wonder if states and municipalities cover up alligator attacks as much as they can (and crocodiles in Florida) because they don't want tourism affected? Like the mayor in Jaws what



Op is certifiable
Posted by bootlegger
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 7:59 am to
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Farmed gator meat and hides has driven down the price of wild caught resulting in fewer people out hunting the wild caught


Yup. And the farms, through the Louisiana Alligator Management Program started in 1970, is what saved the wild alligator from becoming nearly extinct. But now has lead to the overpopulation as well. Double edged sword.
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 8:11 am
Posted by The Torch
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 8:00 am to
You can't run duck dogs in the marsh anymore until the water cools down, which may be February.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 8:06 am to
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why is there not a more aggressive attempt to solve the problem?



Because they are worthless

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the meat is good


No it isnt

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the skin has good worth


No it doesn't

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killing more would piss off PETA


I'm ok with this

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wonder if states and municipalities cover up alligator attacks as much as they can


They do not. Unless you are storing your infant on the ground right next to the water in the summer at night, it's a non-issue. When someone's dog gets eaten it makes the news. People aren't getting attacked by alligators.

The population of alligators, regardless of the number is a non issue. The biggest problem with them is them getting hit by cars.

Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 8:08 am to
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why the hell do grown human beings allow python populations to expand?



Because in the wild, a grown female python can drop upwards of 50+ eggs every time she mates. It's not like they reproduce like humans or even cats or dogs, they make pigs and rabbits look like amateurs.

And unlike some snakes, pythons will stay with the eggs to protect them until well after they start hatching, so that limits the amount of eggs being eaten by other predators.
Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 8:15 am to
I don’t like gators but they eat beavers so I’m good with gators. Beavers are some destructive bastards.
Posted by HeadSlash
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 8:18 am to
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My Facebook moms group has been hearing rumors about an alligator-worshipping Satanic cult that's been growing again and is feeding trafficked children to gators as part of their sex rituals. Most of the local politicians are believed to be part of it too.


Actually sounds plausible
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 8:20 am to
I feel it is here in La. I can remember going skiing and fishing in lots of places like out of Violet, Hopedale, Shell Beach, etc. and never seeing an alligator.

Last time I went out of Hopedale my brother-in-law and I were fishing cuts on a falling tide and the amount of alligators we saw was unreal. We spent the better part of 5 hours fishing for trout, reds, flounder and caught a lot of bass with them and everywhere we stopped it wasn't long before we started seeing the gators.


I have seen episodes of "Swamp People" where Ronnie Adams is catching huge gators right there in Violet and there seems to be no shortage of them either. I'd estimate that between all the people on that show that are out filling tags, they are taking close to 2,000 gators a year out of the swamps and they are not putting a dent in it.

And that's just the people they have on the show and not all the gator hunters in the state.

Just checked the LDWF site and see they issue between 25K-35K tags a year for gators. So that's a lot of gators being harvested yearly.
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 8:24 am
Posted by LSUA 75
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Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 8:22 am to
“ the skin has good worth”

Family in Grant Parish has a 75 acre lake full of alligators.For good many years they would get 5 tags.They have a large cooler,would catch their 5 in a day or 2 and haul them down South somewhere to sell.

Last few years they quit fooling with it because the price was so low it wasn’t worth the effort.
Originally they got a good price for them.
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 8:22 am to
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the skin has good worth


Not so much anymore

Gator farms flood the market with skins that aren’t beat up from living in the wild
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 8:25 am to
Boots are still spendy last time I looked.

The meat never was that good IMO.
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 8:26 am to
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I don’t like gators but they eat beavers so I’m good with gators. Beavers are some destructive bastards.


I eat beaver, do you like me?

ETA: and yes beavers can be very destructive when you put them on a pedestal
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 8:27 am
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 8:26 am to
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Family in Grant Parish has a 75 acre lake full of alligators




DAMN!
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 8:29 am to


I'll never understand that, as plentiful as they are.
Posted by Sea Hoss
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 8:32 am to
ISWYDT
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 8:34 am to
I don't think so.

The bigger issue is the evasive python issue in South Florida.
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