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re: IRS Billionaire leak: Bezos paid $0 in income tax, got a $4k tax credit for his two kids

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Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:47 am to
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honestly frick that, taxation is theft period


No its not, paying no taxes would be disasterous to society to the point that it would just cease to exist.

Totally nonsensical.
Posted by rd280z
Richmond
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:47 am to
If certain tax exemptions were stopped, there would be very little charitable contributions to the folks that really need a helping hand.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38079 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:48 am to
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No its not


yes it is. until they follow constitution only, its theft.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17699 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:48 am to
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as a percentage of their wealth accumulation
I imagine we'll see more articles like this as Democrats try to drum up support of taxing unrealized gains.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:48 am to
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yes it is. until they follow constitution only, its theft.


Waste isn't theft
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38079 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:49 am to
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Waste isn't theft



your right but federeally mandate payments to give to other people is.

so long as my money is being taken from me at the threat of gunpoint or being thrown in a cage and given to others....its theft.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25860 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:51 am to
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The less you make the higher percentage of your income goes to taxes. That's the definition of regressive.

Then don't buy non-necessities and luxury items. If you can afford to buy $18/lb crab legs, $13/lb ribeyes, beer, expensive smartphones, $150 sneakers, or big screen TV's then I don't care if you make $20k a year or $200k a year. If you can afford those luxuries, you can afford the tax on them
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 11:52 am
Posted by STLDawg
The Lou
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:55 am to
I used to dickride the ultra rich like many in this thread. Then I realized they are the enemy as much as big government and are practically indistinguishable in our oligarchy. They hate us and our way of life. We should generally oppose the oligarchs.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:57 am to
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so long as my money is being taken from me at the threat of gunpoint or being thrown in a cage and given to others....its theft.


Move to Costa Rica. You've entered into a social contract, don't like it leave.

Taxes objectively provide value to society. Saying taxation is theft automatically disqualifies anything else you say on the subject.

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:58 am to
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Then I realized they are the enemy as much as big government and are practically indistinguishable in our oligarchy.


So weird that a bunch of people who claim to staunchly defend personal liberties want to live under the rule of like 50 rich dudes.
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:58 am to
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Good idea. We can just nationalize all the corporations. That way the government owns all the means of production.


I'm not suggesting that but let's be honest, our capitalism has evolved to the corporations being big enough to own our government anyways. When corporations can force the government to bail them out what is it called? The insurance industry writing the health care bills... So it is really neither here nor there whether you want to call it communist or capitalist, it is the same small group of people either way.

I am suggesting that maybe some industries don't need to have multinational corporation sized entities in them.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46210 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:58 am to
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Taxes objectively provide value to society.


Taxes should provide value to those being taxed.

That's fairly true at the state and local level.

Not so much at the federal level.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:59 am to
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Then I realized they are the enemy as much as big government


Theyre pretty much the 4th arm of government. Just unelected.

Our future is a technocracy, in which unelected elites will rule.
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
11092 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 12:00 pm to
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y’all all

Short for you all all?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 12:00 pm to
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I used to dickride the ultra rich like many in this thread. Then I realized they are the enemy



Same. Plus I'm much closer to being in poverty than I am being mega-rich.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46210 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 12:00 pm to
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Short for you all all?


He's also a fan of chai tea and ATM machines.

Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 12:01 pm to
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Good idea. We can just nationalize all the corporations. That way the government owns all the means of production.



No, but it's becoming painfully obvious large corporations are starting to act like another branch of the government. Something is obviously not working correctly, and crony capitalism is not capitalism.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 12:03 pm to
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and crony capitalism is not capitalism.


Correct. Its a blended system.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17699 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 12:03 pm to
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Then don't buy non-necessities and luxury items. If you can afford to buy $18/lb crab legs, $13/lb ribeyes, beer, expensive smartphones, $150 sneakers, or big screen TV's then I don't care if you make $20k a year or $200k a year. If you can afford those luxuries, you can afford the tax on them
The Feds will never do anything to discourage personal spending. The debt structure and constant spending is what keeps the US and Global economy chugging along. (Even if the train is already burning).
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
4010 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 12:04 pm to
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Most people working for low wages are kept under 40 hours so they don't have to be provided with benefits which is a great way to keep people poor and put more strain on society


No, that is not what is keeping poor people poor. What is keeping them poor is not having any marketable skills. The reason nurses and lawyers and inspectors get paid more that 15/hr is because they can do things that the untrained and uneducated and uninitiated worker cant do.

Paying high school drop outs 15 an hour to flip burgers or slide items across a resister is not going to help them not be poor.

We are just kicking the can down the road and once inflation catches up, they will be poor people that will need 20 an hour.
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