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IPhone owners can sue Apple for monopolizing App Store, Supreme Court rules

Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:16 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:16 am
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A group of iPhone owners accusing Apple of violating US antitrust rules because of its App Store monopoly can sue the company, the Supreme Court ruled Monday.

Justice Brett Kavanaugh, in the majority opinion, said that when "retailers engage in unlawful anticompetitive conduct that harms consumers," people buying those companies' products have the right to hold the businesses to account.

"That is why we have antitrust law," Kavanaugh wrote. The court's four liberal justices joined Kavanaugh in the 5-4 decision.

Apple (AAPL) does not allow customers to download apps from any other source other than the iTunes App Store. Unlike Android, iOS customers can only get apps from that official source, which Apple says serves as kind of quality control to weed out security threats and apps that violate the company's terms of service.

The Supreme Court did not rule on the customers' likelihood of success — only that they have the right to sue. Apple argued that it was not a monopoly, rather a platform for app developers who can set their own prices. It has said that if the court allowed the case to proceed, it would disrupt the e-commerce market.


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What will this mean?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:17 am to
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Justice Brett Kavanaugh, in the majority opinion, said that when "retailers engage in unlawful anticompetitive conduct that harms consumers," people buying those companies' products have the right to hold the businesses to account.



This liberal a-hole. Knew he would do nothing but protect big business.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35115 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:19 am to
Get a life hippies.
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
13916 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:19 am to
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Justice Brett Kavanaugh


He likes beer
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14339 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:22 am to
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What will this mean?
sounds like Kavanaugh is kinda middle of the road.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30571 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:23 am to
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This liberal a-hole. Knew he would do nothing but protect big business.

You got it backwards there bud. He ruled against Apple
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30571 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:26 am to
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sounds like Kavanaugh is kinda middle of the road.

Kavanaugh is going to push for free market enterprise, which this decision does. I’m a conservative, but those other conservative judges ruling in Apple’s favor are stupid. Being a conservative they should protect free economy, not big business monopolies like Apple
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118773 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:27 am to
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"That is why we have antitrust law," Kavanaugh wrote. The court's four liberal justices joined Kavanaugh in the 5-4 decision.


Seems like it should be a 9-0 decision.

You shouldn't have to jail break your iPhone to install an app Apple doesn't like. Just let people install it and give them a warning before hand that by installing this app you will break the terms of service with Apple.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118773 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:29 am to
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Kavanaugh is going to push for free market enterprise, which this decision does. I’m a conservative, but those other conservative judges ruling in Apple’s favor are stupid. Being a conservative they should protect free economy, not big business monopolies like Apple



Exactly. I don't understand the reasoning behind the conservative judges decisions...I'm probably missing something.
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2014
5479 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:30 am to
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This liberal a-hole. Knew he would do nothing but protect big business.

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You got it backwards there bud. He ruled against Apple


The sarcasm is pretty easy to see considering it's exactly the opposite of protecting big business
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:31 am to
I thought it was too, I'm still surprised by people blinded by political rage though.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118773 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:33 am to
I hope this decision leads to "unapproved" apps being readily available for install on iPhone. The Apple app store is one of the main reasons competitors to Twitter and FB have trouble getting off the ground. For example if apple allowed GAB app to be installed on iPhone the competition toward Twitter would be much bigger.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26640 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:36 am to
Haing to use the Apple Store and go thru iTunes to do anything are the two main reasons I don't have an iPhone.

fricking Apple acts like it still owns the phone after you bought it.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9044 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:39 am to
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Apple argued that it was not a monopoly, rather a platform for app developers who can set their own prices. It has said that if the court allowed the case to proceed, it would disrupt the e-commerce market.


Um, disruption is one the healthiest things that can happen in a free market economy.

Thanks for showing your hand Apple.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18234 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:41 am to
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You shouldn't have to jail break your iPhone to install an app Apple doesn't like. Just let people install it and give them a warning before hand that by installing this app you will break the terms of service with Apple.


This is essentially what Android phones do whenever you install an app from apkmirror or a similar source
Posted by southern686
Narnia
Member since Nov 2015
883 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:42 am to
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fricking Apple acts like it still owns the phone after you bought it.



This. I refuse to own apple products because of it. It isn't that they make bad products. It's the fact it is their way or the highway once you own anything from them.
This post was edited on 5/13/19 at 10:43 am
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11602 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:45 am to
Can I sue Microsoft for not letting me buy Playstation games on the XBOX Store?
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29684 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:46 am to
good
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:48 am to
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You shouldn't have to jail break your iPhone to install an app Apple doesn't like.


Why?

You can always buy a different kind of phone. Let the free market decide if Apple should keep doing this.

How dare auto-manufacturers build their high end vehicles with parts that can't be replaced with generics from AutoZone! They should be forced to make maintenance on their vehicles cheaper!

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:51 am to
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This. I refuse to own apple products because of it. It isn't that they make bad products. It's the fact it is their way or the highway once you own anything from them.



Perfect example of a free market at work.

If enough people had your dedication to not buying Apple because of this, they would change their policies.

We shouldn't force their hand here. Let the consumer decide.
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