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re: Investigators When they KNEW Murdaugh lied (Page 112)

Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:56 am to
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:56 am to
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There are strange set in stone sides to this case. Some think AM is innocent, and the LE/State/court is out to get the Murdough's, some ignorantly got political, some think AM is a crook but defend him strongly regarding not being a murderer.

Ummm...there are people that still believe OJ is innocent. There will ALWAYS be people that believe whatever they want to believe, regardless of the evidence. That's nothing new.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:01 am to
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Some keep saying she would be running away. It's the opposite. She was running toward her baby to help him.


Got it. Makes perfect sense.

30 yards is farther than I was thinking. I mean even if she wasn't running towards him, it would take an older lady a decent amount of time to run 30 yards.

Thank yall
Posted by Cajunhawk81
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:01 am to
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Ummm...there are people that still believe OJ is innocent. There will ALWAYS be people that believe whatever they want to believe, regardless of the evidence. That's nothing new.


It's not some wackadoo notion to think AM was 100% innocent of murder, yet 100% implicated in the murder. That's not defending him as innocent, that's using common fricking sense. He couldn't even put down a dog, but became Dirty Harry all of the sudden? Conspiracy to commit murder, lock him up. He was involved. Pulled the trigger, I'd rather believe in Santa Claus.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:03 am to
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It almost felt like at times kosmocramer was a close family member of Alex Murdaugh with the way he dismissed obvious truths.


Why are several of you so angry about my comments? Very odd.
Posted by Cajunhawk81
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:05 am to
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Why are several of you so angry about my comments? Very odd.


The group think yats don't like dissent. They've been told AM is Dirty Harry. YOU BETTER FALL IN LINE, OR ELSE!!
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:06 am to
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Why are several of you so angry about my comments? Very odd.


You’re confusing anger with rolling our eyes at someone who’s consistently clueless.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:06 am to
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Maggie was running toward her son. It appears Paul was confronted and shot in the chest in the room. The shooter, thinking Paul is dead, then goes down to grab the AR leaning up outside of the room to shoot Maggie, but Paul stumbles out of the feed room and the shooter, while crouching down to get the AR, quickly unloads a shot to Paul’s head. The shooter then confronts Maggie who was running toward her child, shoots her twice the the middle to middle lower part of her body. The shooter circled her and shoots her from behind (the shot that when through her chest and into her head. Then, the shooter continues to circle around her and shoots her in the head.

The phone situation was likely a mistake. Maggie most likely left her phone in the golf cart. When the shooter got on the golf cart to leave it was realized the phone was there and had to be discarded.. That is my only plausible explanation for why the phone was taken (risking additional data to be collected to assist SLED) and the steps on her phone did not match up with Alex’s steps on his phone.
Good summary. What is your opinion on AM getting his bag of pills from Paul -that some presumed Paul had taken in an argument of some sort that night-

And the phone fell out fooling with Paul's body so he placed it on top? It is all so crazy, but seeing the family history it comes into focus as normal for them.

I don't think AM will ever confess to who pulled the triggers because then his entire family gets targeted. So as selfish as AM seems, he is being the fall guy. If not just to salvage a tiny bit of his family legacy?
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:09 am to
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It's not some wackadoo notion to think AM was 100% innocent of murder, yet 100% implicated in the murder.


I actually thinks it's completely wackadoo. At least if you actually paid attention to the entire trial.
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That's not defending him as innocent, that's using common fricking sense.

Meh, it's defending him. Using any ounce of common sense proves beyond a reasonable doubt that he was guilty AF. Actually, I'm not sure how you could make any argument how it could have been ANYONE but him. Some mysterious killers showed up at the exact time they were together to murder them, didn't bring any weapons, and used family guns? Not wackadoo at all....
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He couldn't even put down a dog,


You know this how? He said so? Someone that knows him says so? That makes it a fact? Bahahahaha.....
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Pulled the trigger, I'd rather believe in Santa Claus.

Merry Christmas! Thank God you weren't on the jury. But the fact is, he is a convicted murderer. People defend murderers daily. No biggie.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80520 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:10 am to
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You’re confusing anger with rolling our eyes at someone who’s consistently clueless.


Ever since I started posting here, I've been constantly berated for not knowing the facts in evidence and understanding the trial.

Yet there is so much misinformation and untruths about evidence being spread around here (by you and your ilk of haters).

My position has also been misconstrued.

Doesn't really matter, but not sure why there is a constant need to attack me personally for sharing my thoughts that are based on the testimony and evidence.

Apologies for interrupting your lynch mob circle jerk. Carry on.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14665 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:12 am to
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Good summary. What is your opinion on AM getting his bag of pills from Paul -that some presumed Paul had taken in an argument of some sort that night-


I do not know anything about that or have an opinion. Paul had communicated to his father that Maggie found a bag of pills in Alex’s bag one month prior to the murders. He sent his dad a text, telling him they need to talk and that he was staying at Edisto Beach house until Alex arrived, so they could discuss. Likely Paul giving his father a heads up that he was going to be confronted by Maggie about the pills. That is the only pill situation I am aware of near the time of the murders involving Paul and Alex.
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 11:19 am
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:12 am to
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You know this how? He said so? Someone that knows him says so? That makes it a fact


The good ole boy that tends the dogs (and testified about how the hose was put up) stated that.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:14 am to
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He couldn't even put down a dog, but became Dirty Harry all of the sudden?


yep, it can happen, particularly when you're motivated like he was.

There's no one else. The guy is as dumb as he appears.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167104 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:17 am to
True. I had just browsed twitter, in the moment it seemed so much more multi-faceted in opinions from the days of O.J. Yes, the guilty, not guilty and some variants in opinions are always there.

But the cultural wars seems to have expanded into Red State, Blue State hate. Like was done in East Palestine. Combined with some locals in the Murdaugh town having such loyalty to the Murdaughs.

i e....the egg lady. Is it instilled in some --as in those in a monarch rule- are always seen as reigning high-- out of fear, or they know nothing else?

No biggie. Just spitballing.
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 11:22 am
Posted by SemperFiDawg
Member since Sep 2014
4337 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:18 am to
2 guns were brought by AM to make it look like 2 shooters. If you go to youtube and watch the bodycam video of the first cop on the scene, one of the first statements out of AM's mouth was "They did Paul bad." He was selling the idea of 2 shooters to anyone who would listen. It was clearly premeditated and he had been planning it for a long time, just like he said.
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 11:20 am
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:20 am to
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The good ole boy that tends the dogs (and testified about how the hose was put up) stated that.


You honestly believe that just because that good ole boy stated that, it's an absolute fact?

And did the good ole boy observe him 100% when he was admittedly high and paranoid on opiates? No possibility that AM could become a different person than the non dog killing AM that ole boy saw when he was sober?

Thank God jurors used common sense when measuring "evidence" such as testimony of good ole boy friend of family.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:21 am to
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It was clearly premeditated and he had been planning it for a long time, just like he said.


His voice is on Paul's snapchat taken literally minutes before the shooting. He was there. He was also desperate and didn't plan it well.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80520 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:22 am to
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You honestly believe that just because that good ole boy stated that, it's an absolute fact?

And did the good ole boy observe him 100% when he was admittedly high and paranoid on opiates? No possibility that AM could become a different person than the non dog killing AM that ole boy saw when he was sober?


I merely stated what the person said. What is in evidence.

I didn't state my opinion about it in any way. Why is that so hard for some of you to understand?
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:25 am to
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I merely stated what the person said. What is in evidence.

I didn't state my opinion about it in any way. Why is that so hard for some of you to understand?


I was responding to the person who stated he couldn't kill the dog as fact.

You jumped in and stated the good ole boy testimony. I believe that was implying it was somehow supportive of fact. I responded to your implication.

Why is that so hard for you to understand?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80520 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:27 am to
I wasn't implying anything. I was stating a fact of who stated that since you seemed to not know where it came from.


Posted by Cajunhawk81
Member since Jan 2021
2511 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:28 am to
The head yat has spoken. Believe the narrative, or be downvoted by the rest of the yats.
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