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re: Interstate lane for 18 Wheelers

Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:39 am to
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:39 am to
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Why hasn't this happened yet? An interstate lane that runs parallel to the commuters. To get these freak shows that drive the speed limit in the left lane off the road. Either that or make it illegal for them to pass and to enforce a minimum speed on the right side. Could you imagine an interstate without trucks and truck drivers?!?!


Major interstates should be 6 lanes wide (3 in either direction) at a minimum, with big rigs, RV's, and anything with a trailer strictly limited to the right two lanes unless there is an approaching left hand exit.

This is especially true with I-40 and I-10 in the US where there is a massive amount of truck traffic - each one taking the space of 4-6 normal cars. I-12 in Louisiana is another example where 4 lanes just isn't doing it anymore. Even the rural section of those highways are inadequate at 4 lanes. They need to be expanded to 6 lanes - with truck lane restrictions.

Dump trucks and open top commercial vehicles (like sugar cane trucks) and concrete mixers should not be allowed on interstates at all unless they are right lane only with more strict inspection requirements. Most of it is local traffic anyways, but these are a huge source of debris on the road. And I think dump truck drivers are all methed-out nut jobs with a suicide fetish. They are the Ford Mustang leaving cars n coffee version of commercial vehicles.
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 9:41 am
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33036 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:42 am to
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Where I live, if an interstate is three or more lanes there *are* semi restrictions.



As there should be.

But it's hard to do that if it's just 2 travel lanes in each direction. We have to widen our highways and invest in our infrastructure. There is clearly more traffic on those routes since our country has doubled in population since most of it has been built.

In some locations - like when there are steep grades or frequent unsafe/foggy conditions like some of the causeways - yeah we should put them all in the right lane. One of those trucks screw up and the network is broken for hours since they don't usually just block one lane when they crash.
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 9:46 am
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33036 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:44 am to
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Or we could make it where they have to stay off of interstates unless between 10:30 pm and 6:30 a


Think about this.....if we really need to do this, we have a serious problem with our highway network.

I'm 100% behind lane restricitons, but we have to invest in more lane capacity too. And maybe think about increasing the weight capacity of our trucks in this country to potentially reduce the number of trips.
Posted by BourreTheDog
Member since May 2016
2725 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:48 am to
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But how will they pass another semi by going 0.000001MPH faster?


Eliminate any and all ‘governed’ speed regulations and prohibit companies from installing restrictions would stop 90pct of traffic buildups on highways.
Posted by BourreTheDog
Member since May 2016
2725 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:50 am to
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I had an 18 wheeler cut me off changing lanes to the middle as the left lane cones closed that lane off. (I-10 on MS around MM 16). It could have been a really bad accident. 18 wheeler drivers need remedial driving lessons.


Read the road signs through that area dipshit. Tractor trailers are instructed to be in left lane.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33036 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:54 am to
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Semis are about 5% of all registered vehicles in the US


They also take up about 4-5x the amount of space as a normal car. They consume far more capacity in medium/high congestion scenarios since they don't accelerate as quickly as the other traffic and has to have a lot more space to execute a lane change. Traffic will move a lot more freely if we limit the lange changes - and less volatility in traffic will make things a lot easier for trucks. But our infrastructure isn't set up for that in a lot of areas since we are investing our weath in Ukraine and China instead of ourselves.

What they found with these new bridge studies in Louisiana is that only about 20% of the vehicles on I-10 in Baton Rouge are trucks. But they are definitely responsible for far more traffic problems just by the size and nature of their movement. Trucks have a higher capacity factor especially in heavy traffic. 20% of the traffic could easily cosume 50% or more of the available capacity.

IMO the biggest, most glaring problem in Louisiana and Baton Rouge especially is that our highway network is so neglected and obsolete that we can't really impose lane restrictions now.....but it is absolutely something that should be considered once they are done widening I-10 (which should take about 140 years) and there is potentially more space for all of those vehicles. Commuter lanes are another potential option that should be considered too but I don't think they are outside of I-12.

An 8 -10 lane highway with trucks limited to the outside 2 lanes is a lot easier than limiting trucks to the right lane on a broken, neglected, poorly lit and narrow elevated freeway with right and left exits and weird grade changes that exist because the origional designers (all long dead) were trying to thread the highway around neighborhoods. We have to fix our shite and beef up our alternative routes before we start limiting trucks to lanes in Baton Rouge.

It's inexcusible how little Louisiana's government actually works for the people. Nowhere is that more evident than with our highway network. LADOTD is every bit as functionally obsolete as the highways they are expected to maintain but don't.
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 10:00 am
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
12014 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:58 am to
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Why hasn't this happened yet? An interstate lane that runs parallel to the commuters.


But then who is Gordon gonna sue?

The lawsuits and insurance alone could fund such a project.
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
20219 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:59 am to
Read what I posted dipshit. Trucker was in right lane and decided to come into my lane at the same place the left lane was ending.

Could have resulted in a multicar pile up.

Yes it says trucks use left lane but it doesn't give trucks the right to change lanes in an unsafe manner. He forced his way in and almost took the front and side of my vehicle. He didn't have to change lanes at that exact moment.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26396 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:03 am to
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Why hasn't this happened yet? An interstate lane that runs parallel to the commuters.


The New Jersey Turnpike does this and it works well. But that is a MASSIVE highway in a highly congested part of the country. Lots of tolls too.

What will work in most of the rest of the country would be simply widening the highways and limiting the commercial vehicles to the right two lanes in both directions and only alllowing them access to the middle lane for passing (3-5 miles at a time max). Also adding a permanent concrete center divider and expand the lighting will also make those routes safer.

We aren't getting around the need to invest in our highways. We have to boost capacity. And we will never discourage local traffic from using the interstate system until our local/regional routes are more efficient.
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 10:08 am
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45359 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:04 am to
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if we cut out 2/3s of the day for shipping
Nobody suggested that. There are alternate roads they can drive on and plan their day around only being on the interstate at night.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26396 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:04 am to
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Read the road signs through that area dipshit. Tractor trailers are instructed to be in left lane.



I don't think they are instructed to crash into whatever car is already in that lane though. That's what I think the poster was saying.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45359 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:07 am to
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we have to invest in more lane capacity


Imagine that. Right now they are widening I-4 to handle the traffic load from 2010. Millions of extra people have moved to red states, to leave their oppressive governments behind.

Our state governments see it as more revenue, but have remained totally neutered in building up the infrastructure to meet the need.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26396 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:10 am to
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Right now they are widening I-4 to handle the traffic load from 2010. Millions of extra people have moved to red states, to leave their oppressive governments behind.


Louisiana is just now starting to widen parts of I-12 and I-10 that should have been widened 25 years ago. The decking is starting to sag on I-110 but ther are no plans to improve or update that. If they start building the new bridge crossing at Plaquemine right now, they'll only be about 30 years late.

It's particularly bad in Louisiana, but it's absoutely a nationwide problem.

It's not just the interstates around here either. US61, US190, LA1.....all not only obsolete but are also lacking reflectors, visible stripes, and any real maintenance in most sections.
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 10:14 am
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13326 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:30 am to
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We aren't getting around the need to invest in our highways.

This message brought to you by the American Society of Civil Engineers.

How about LEOs start enforcing laws already on the books about impeding the flow of traffic, rather than spending their time looking for the lone person riding in the HOV lane? That shite causes backups on I-10W in Houston at least three days a week.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79956 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:35 am to
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Major interstates should be 6 lanes wide (3 in either direction) at a minimum, with big rigs, RV's, and anything with a trailer strictly limited to the right two lanes unless there is an approaching left hand exit.


The highway between Columbus and Cleveland (I-71, 2 hour drive) is absolutely amazing because it's three lanes in each direction the entire way.

It's also been proven it drastically saves lives because accidents happen when people are going significantly different speeds, passing on the right, etc.
Posted by TigerSooner
Member since Nov 2023
3590 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:38 am to
You're an idiot.
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
7056 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 11:36 am to
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Why hasn't this happened yet?


the cost to add an extra lane to all interstates.


The problem isn't a truck lane, the problem is that a lot of truck drivers would rather play leap frog than tap the break and drive in line until they can easily pass.
Posted by nosaj
Member since Sep 2010
2632 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 11:46 am to
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so you should probably stick to the backroads


Unfortunately they are on the backroads too
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9472 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 12:10 pm to
Money and right away battles which were part of why the Trans-Texas Corridor never happened.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71544 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 12:31 pm to
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I have no negative thoughts toward them when I'm on the road, they're just doing their job, but they are dangerous to cars.

The way some people drive around 18 wheelers on the road will never cease to amaze me.
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