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re: Indian Mounds at LSU could be world's oldest man-made structures

Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:20 am to
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15579 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:20 am to
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Not even close. Göbekli Tepe is double that.


A fellow Graham Hancock, Randall Carlson follower.
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15579 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:22 am to
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And remember how people got pissed


No.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23315 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:43 am to
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It's essentially, the first spot of "high ground" up the Mississippi from the coast. Perhaps that's it or has something to do with it.



Except that the migration of the first inhabitants spread South and East from the PNW, not up from the gulf. The other poster was correct. This claim is a FOS justification by an academic to continue receiving a grant.
Posted by PhantomMenace
Member since Oct 2017
1946 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:47 am to
Impress your friends and children with this bit of trivia: The first spot of "high ground" up the Mississippi is on the edge of the Prairie Plateau (including "Victory Hill and the ridge that runs down "Highland" Road), which was created by the most recent ice age. Hard to believe but glaciers at one time in Earth history extended this far south. Most of the rest of Louisiana south of there is the result of sedimentation by the mighty Mississippi River.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
32604 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:51 am to
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Moundville Archeological Site



I grew up a few miles from there and rode bikes around the park as a kid. Every kid in the Tuscaloosa school system went on field trips to the Indian festivals.

I didn't appreciate how cool the site is until years later.
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
14625 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:53 am to
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Indian Mounds at LSU could be world's oldest man-made structures


Yeah no
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
14625 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:56 am to
Graham Hancock is entertaining but he doesn’t know jack shite about moundville or its age.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
111641 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 11:06 am to
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Except that the migration of the first inhabitants spread South and East from the PNW, not up from the gulf.


That likely occurred a good bit earlier than 11-12,000 years ago, though.

ETA, For the record, I'm making no claim to know whether or not this guy is full of shite or not, or as to what may or may not be his motivation here with regard to this "study." I'm just saying.
This post was edited on 1/22/20 at 11:08 am
Posted by TheOtherSide
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2016
348 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 12:55 pm to
My kids used to roller blade down the mounds 25 years ago.

The 1921 Theo Link Preliminary Site Plan for the campus indicates them on the drawing as Indian Mounds.

There is what appears to be an updated drawing titled "General Plan" which shows the mounds and indicates the area as Indian Reservation.

Both drawings were before the H.P. Long Field House (Activity Building) was built in 1932.

I had heard that the mounds were from the H.P. Long Field House swimming pool excavation. That was passed down from one of the LSU grounds workers who was around at the time of the construction. Short story, but longer when I tell it.

They found mounds while building the raised section of I-55 through the Manchac area back in the 70s.

There are also some in Monroe in one of the subdivisions. Had pottery shards. One of me ex's 2nd grade student brought her a paper sandwich bag full of them. Do a Google search for "River Oaks, Monroe, LA" and you will see the notation to the lower left "Native American Indian Mound". There was another around Fairbanks just north of Monroe.

There is also Poverty Point 3500 years old.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
66873 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 1:16 pm to
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If you read the article...

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He now believes there was an error in the dating, and the true age is 11,300 years
Gobekli Tepe is confirmed 12000 years old. And it's a stone temple that demonstrates a knowledge of complex stone cutting, moving and relief carving.

And it's not just Gobekli Tepe. Several very similar structures have been uncovered across that region in Turkey.

If you think human beings went from zero to that overnight, you're nuts. People don't just jump straight to quarrying, cutting, carving and moving 20 ton stones overnight. Therefore, you must also concede that there must have been much older structures in the world. They simply haven't been discovered or identified as such.
This post was edited on 1/22/20 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
111641 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 1:19 pm to
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Therefore, you must also concede that there must have been much older structures in the world


I don’t think the contention would be that this is the oldest man made “structure” ever created. Just the oldest one that’s left standing. Certainly, early man was building different sorts of things well before building big mounds or temples.
Posted by Sisyphus
Member since Feb 2014
2011 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 1:34 pm to
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Gobekli Tepe is confirme3d 12000 years old


I've seen anywhere from 10k-12k.

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If you think human beings went from zero to that overnight, you're nuts.


No one said that. I merely pointed out what the article said.

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People don;t just jump staright to quarrying, cutting, carving and moving 20 ton stones overnight. Therefore, you must also concede that there must have been much older structures in the world.


Obviously.

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They simply haven't been discovered or identified as such.


Correct. It's also possible that they just didn't survive.

If I destroy every spoon in the world except for the spoon I have it doesn't make it the first spoon ever created or the most complex but it would make it the oldest surviving spoon.

You are arguing something that wasn't even being discussed.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
66873 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 1:37 pm to
Piling stuff up barely qualifies as a structure. Plus, Gobekli Tepe was buried intentionally. The "left standing" qualification isn't really relevant. Most old places get buried one way or another, if they aren't torn down or worn away.

If those very complex structures exist in any state, it stands to reason that primitive mounds predate them by centuries, if not longer. They just aren't recognized as being man made at this time.
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
77705 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 1:39 pm to
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If I destroy every spoon in the world except for the spoon I have it doesn't make it the first spoon ever created or the most complex but it would make it the oldest surviving spoon.


Why do you hate spoons? How about those little souvenir spoons from the airport, those too?
Posted by Deep Purple Haze
LA
Member since Jun 2007
71747 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 1:44 pm to
what about sporks?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 1:45 pm to
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what about sporks?


don't even get him started on chopsticks
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 1:48 pm to
Lol the Indian Mounds were constructed in 1997
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14569 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 1:54 pm to
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Graham Hancock, Randall Carlso


Interesting to read, but huge frauds.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70471 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 2:09 pm to
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science is just not that accurate.




well 20 years ago I couldnt see a womans vajayjay on my phone anywhere in the country. science tackled that problem
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21814 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 2:15 pm to
That's funny and here we are tumbling down them, puking, peeing on GameDay.
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