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re: Incoming LSU students: Ready for mandatory anti-racist classes?
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:35 pm to fallguy_1978
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:35 pm to fallguy_1978
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I know where my graduating daughter won’t be going. My Alma Mater I am disappoint.
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Yeah, I don't know if my kid will be going either. She'd be the first in 4 generations of my family to have not attended.
Eh, I don't think I would go that far. I get it. I think it's a ridiculous class to force on everybody. But it's not the only ridiculous class that you HAVE to take to graduate. And as far as politics on campus, that would be easy to ignore and avoid. Like you, I don't recall ANY of this in the 90s, but it may have existed. I didn't seek it out or pay attention to it. I ran in circles with friends just like I do now and was just fine. I don't think this class passes anyway.
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:37 pm to boxcarbarney
LSU would be racist to make this mandatory because it focuses only on African Americans/Africans.
What about all the other races? Haven’t they been oppressed too?
What about all the other races? Haven’t they been oppressed too?
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:37 pm to ThatMakesSense
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A trade school? That’s what you’re describing.
No, it would be closer to what Germany has which is called a Fachhochschule, or "University of Applied Sciences", which is different from "University" as we know it. German equivalent of our University is simply "Universitaet".
ETA: From a German education website
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German universities of applied sciences “Fachhochschulen” are independent higher education institutions providing practically-oriented and responsive teaching and research programs, towards labour market needs. These institutions are mainly self-sustained, and some of them are publicly funded.
The key distinction feature of German universities of applied sciences is inclusion of a paid practical training (practical job) “Praxissemester” in the study program. Such trainings are carried in premises of private businesses or public institutions/administrations aimed at placing the student closer to the labour market needs.
Teaching professors in Fachhochschulen, despite being academics, have a strong background of professional experience in the labour market, out of the academia.
German Universities of applied sciences offer the following study courses:
Agricultural economy.
Design.
Technology.
Business.
Social work.
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:39 pm to ThatMakesSense
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A trade school? That’s what you’re describing.
He is right. As expensive as 4 year universities have become, there's no need to continue making someone who's majoring in Accounting take classes like History 1001. There should be condensed degrees only concentrating on subjects relative to your field.
We are delivering knowledge that's not particularly useful for your career in the most expensive way possible.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:39 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
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. I think it's a ridiculous class to force on everybody. But it's not the only ridiculous class that you HAVE to take to graduate.
It would be the only class trying to teach my daughter she is inherently evil because she was born white. Anything involving critical race theory is garbage and a detriment to our society moving forward.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:39 pm to ThatMakesSense
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A trade school? That’s what you’re describing.
Not really. Not that small. These would be for 4 year degrees. For instance, a school that was entirely devoted to Engineering. Remove all of the humanities courses and replace them with higher level engineering and practical courses that get you ready to work on day one.
Like "hey, here is what an actual piece of equipment looks like" so you dont feel like a moron.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:41 pm to Centinel
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No, it would be closer to what Germany has which is called a Fachhochschule, or "University of Applied Sciences", which is different from "University" as we know it. German equivalent of our University is simply "Universitaete".
Fachhochschule to you as well.
Doesn’t Germany basically weed out the non intellectuals during Gymnasium? To make what you’re saying more positively accepted?
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:42 pm to boxcarbarney
Offering a class is one thing, making it mandatory is entirely different.
A university is there to offer young adults opportunities to explore new subjects both in the humanities and sciences. It should be entirely left up to the student to choose his or her path.
A university is there to offer young adults opportunities to explore new subjects both in the humanities and sciences. It should be entirely left up to the student to choose his or her path.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:42 pm to jamiegla1
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Not really. Not that small. These would be for 4 year degrees. For instance, a school that was entirely devoted to Engineering. Remove all of the humanities courses and replace them with higher level engineering and practical courses that get you ready to work on day one.
Like "hey, here is what an actual piece of equipment looks like" so you dont feel like a moron.
See my post above. That's pretty much what you're talking about. And the system works very well in Germany.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:42 pm to Oates Mustache
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How is this legal?
The federal government already does this for their own employees.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:43 pm to BOSCEAUX
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She was set to follow in our footsteps but I think I’m going to steer her toward Northwestern or SLU
She’ll get a better education at LSU. I know you’re pissed, but think long term.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:43 pm to East Coast Band
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It should be entirely left up to the student to choose his or her path.
But how will they know they're racist if they're not told they're racist? How will they combat anti-Blackness?
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:43 pm to ThatMakesSense
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Doesn’t Germany basically weed out the non intellectuals during Gymnasium?
Pretty much. There is none of the "every kid should be in college" bullshite there. You are tracked based on your abilities. The difference is they really don't look down on trade skills and blue collar jobs like we do here.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:45 pm to scott8811
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no one pays attention to names on buildings past the day they are dedicated.
Then why did they rename it?
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:47 pm to BOSCEAUX
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It would be the only class trying to teach my daughter she is inherently evil because she was born white. Anything involving critical race theory is garbage and a detriment to our society moving forward.
I hear you, and agree with you on the premise. But it's up to you to make her understand this, and that this kind of stuff is real life, and she will face it in real life. You can't shield her from it forever. Say what you will, but an LSU degree is legit. And to shun it over some stupid shite that she is going to have to face anyway in due time is not the option I would take. I respect your opinion though.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:49 pm to BugAC
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no one pays attention to names on buildings past the day they are dedicated.
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Then why did they rename it?
So a small minority of people would shut the frick up. Same reason why statues fell and people got cancelled.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:50 pm to East Coast Band
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Offering a class is one thing, making it mandatory is entirely different.
A university is there to offer young adults opportunities to explore new subjects both in the humanities and sciences. It should be entirely left up to the student to choose his or her path.
Exactly! Just as you can be required to take a fine arts elective but you are allowed to choose from art, music, theater etc. It should definitely not be forced upon anyone.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:00 pm to boxcarbarney
LesterEarl loves this
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:00 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
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So a small minority of people would shut the frick up.
The problem being, of course, that they never shut the frick up. They just move on to the next outrage.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:04 pm to scott8811
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If this passes it would be the thing that finally makes me cut off my donations
This is the final straw? You mean that the fact that your donations now are going toward studies on renaming buildings, multimillion $ coaching buyouts, and the creation of an Office of Multicultural Affairs for another few million per year among other stuff is ok with you now?
This is not coming from keyboard warrior, I donate at least $500-$750 per year to LSU spread out to the general scholarship fund, department of engineering fund, and the LSU alumni fund.
NO MORE after this year. There's not a chance they are using my money to improve the quality of education for all students and to attract the best and brightest.
When the # of minority students and administrators is more important than the incoming average SAT scores or GPA's, then I'm out. I read what stories they lead with in my alumni magazines for the general population and engineering. It's ALL about SJW. I do NOT care what color, sex, or sexual preference these students are, I want the article to read that an LSU student invented some new method to split an atom to make stainless steel 10% stronger or whatever, not that the first bi-racial trans engineering student scholarship has been established.
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