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Posted on 11/6/18 at 5:17 am
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7881 posts
Posted on 11/6/18 at 5:17 am
Holy crap! You can get ARRESTED in Great Britain for being an insensitive douchebag. I'm glad to live in a country where douchebaggery merely gets one bashed here on the O-T.

Note: I'll give the benefit of the doubt, that this was set fire in a risky location, as being the cause for the charges of "suspicion of a public order offense". Otherwise... those arrests are fricked up.

[FYI "JPinLondon" has not been in London in many years... a questionable/rushed TD name choice twelve years ago]



Five arrested after 'vile' model Grenfell Tower burning video
Tim Stelloh 3 hrs ago
quote:

Five people were arrested in London on Monday after a video posted on social media showed a group burning an effigy of Grenfell Tower, the public housing block where 72 people died in a massive blaze in 2017.

In a statement, London's Metropolitan Police said five men, ages 19 to 55, were being held on suspicion of a public order offense after they turned themselves in to a south London police station.

The men were not identified and additional details were not immediately available.

In the video, several people appear to be gathered around a model of the tower. After it's set alight, the group can be heard chuckling and cracking jokes.
"Help me, help me," someone can be heard saying at one point.

On Twitter, British Prime Minister Theresa May called the video "utterly unacceptable." Stuart Cundy, the Metropolitan Police commander leading an investigation into the fire, said it was "crude" and "vile" in a statement.

"I can't imagine the distress this video will undoubtedly cause to bereaved families and survivors," he said.

The fire, which ignited on the night of June 14, 2017, marked Britain's deadliest domestic blaze since World War II and became a symbol of the area's stark inequality.

Police investigators completed a forensic investigation of the tower in August, collecting evidence and examining its construction and maintenance systems. It's still unclear what caused the fire, though safety experts have told a public inquiry that combustible external cladding helped the fire to quickly spread.



© via Twitter Grenfell Tower effigy


© Toby Melville Image: Grenfell

Five arrested after 'vile' model Grenfell Tower burning video
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 5:30 am
Posted by RoleTideFan80
Member since Aug 2017
794 posts
Posted on 11/6/18 at 5:18 am to
How do you prove something like that?
Posted by Uncle Stu
#AlbinoLivesMatter
Member since Aug 2004
33877 posts
Posted on 11/6/18 at 5:28 am to
Here come the "Progressive" Thought Police en force.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
26684 posts
Posted on 11/6/18 at 5:30 am to
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How do you prove something like that?



These types aren't concerned with proving jack shite. See Kavanaugh hearings.


Slippery slope to be on
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8691 posts
Posted on 11/6/18 at 5:39 am to
They have no freedom of speech or expression, and "sending another any article which is indecent or grossly offensive with an intent to cause distress or anxiety" or "threatening or abusive words or behaviour intending or likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress or cause a breach of the peace" are illegal.

But look how they floated that Trump balloon when he came, such an amazing country!
Posted by StormTiger
Norwich, England (from Texas)
Member since Dec 2003
4943 posts
Posted on 11/6/18 at 5:40 am to
I'm sitting in my office in England right now, and just asked them about it, all of them are happy they have been arrested, and said they deserved it...I brought up the free speech, and they didn't seem worried about it.
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 5:41 am
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 11/6/18 at 5:41 am to
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Grenfell Tower, the public housing block where 72 people died in a massive blaze in 2017.


I didn't hear about this.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175643 posts
Posted on 11/6/18 at 5:43 am to
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I didn't hear about this.


Probably because you don't live in the UK
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
111637 posts
Posted on 11/6/18 at 5:46 am to
quote:

quote:

I didn't hear about this.

Probably because you don't live in the UK




I mean, it was a pretty huge worldwide story for a day or two. Given the nature of the modern news cycle, of course, it was quickly passed by.
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 11/6/18 at 5:49 am to
quote:

.I brought up the free speech, and they didn't seem worried about it.



That's crazy. Who's to determine what is inappropriate and what is not? Is speaking out against someone in power going to be deemed inappropriate in the future?

Free speech is such an awesome freedom I can't see anyone thinking it should be limited.
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
11155 posts
Posted on 11/6/18 at 6:01 am to
The UK is an absolute joke of a country. The entire royal family and government needs to be put down.

Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68603 posts
Posted on 11/6/18 at 6:10 am to
I can remember when the UK was worth a frick....RIP UK.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
17460 posts
Posted on 11/6/18 at 6:16 am to
If they had burned a picture of Jesus it would have been “artistic” and no charges would have been filed.

You have to know what groups to target with your actions. That was their big mistake.
Posted by StormTiger
Norwich, England (from Texas)
Member since Dec 2003
4943 posts
Posted on 11/6/18 at 6:27 am to
quote:

If they had burned a picture of Jesus it would have been “artistic” and no charges would have been filed.

You have to know what groups to target with your actions. That was their big mistake.


yep, and I can definitely tell you that Trump effigies were burnt all over the country the last few days, and again that's not a problem to them.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
21520 posts
Posted on 11/6/18 at 6:33 am to
In America, they used to arrest people for burning a piece of red, white and blue cloth that the people owned. Crazy, right?

The Supreme Court shut that down in Texas v. Johnson in 1989.



Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20381 posts
Posted on 11/6/18 at 6:49 am to
I seem to remember something from History class about us being associated with those folks and then breaking away for some reason having to do with Free Speech and a couple of other reasons. Seems like not much has changed.
Posted by Waterboy1972
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
1144 posts
Posted on 11/6/18 at 6:52 am to
I think it’s called Freedom of Speech ... we like fought a war about it and all ...
Posted by Uncle Stu
#AlbinoLivesMatter
Member since Aug 2004
33877 posts
Posted on 11/6/18 at 6:53 am to
quote:

I brought up the free speech, and they didn't seem worried about it.



did you bring up Free Speech? or Free Speech*



*you're free to say whatever you want just as long as I agree with you, you better check first
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70469 posts
Posted on 11/6/18 at 6:53 am to
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can remember when the UK was worth a frick....RIP UK.




You were alive in 1725?
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 11/6/18 at 6:56 am to
quote:

Who's to determine what is inappropriate and what is not?


The party in power

quote:

Is speaking out against someone in power going to be deemed inappropriate in the future? 



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