re: In a disturbing sign (anecdote) of the economy struggling

With AI someone is either gonna be rich or poor. Up to you to make the right decisions and choices to be on the rich side.

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No. You're avoiding the actual discussion by focusing on strawman arguments

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sigh...just because you can't refute a point, doesn't make it strawman. Idiot.

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$100B sounds like a lot, until you realize the Covid spending in 2020 alone was over $2.6T. I almost put "around $2.5T" until I realized the difference in my two figures accounted for basically the max you could blame on gas price increases.

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Rather odd statement. You don't really understand how energy prices affect the economy, do you?

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And you have to account for the % of that $100B attributed to Biden alone. Same with illegals (total net something like $100-150B).

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Again, you need to show your gorilla math here. 20 million (some estimates are up to 30 million) illegals and you are landing on $100 Bilion is the cost? You are treating this like it's a fixed cost per capita. There are direct costs, upstream and downstream costs to this, and energy and supply chain.. Are you aware of that?

And if we want to add another large driver, we can add healthcare. I'm assuming Obamacare you will somehow blame on Trump too, right?

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Not in 2020-2024, the time frame we are discussing.

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Well no shite, he wasn't in office. I asked you before, what energy policy of Trump's did Biden cancel day 1 of his administration. What border policies did the Biden admin implement during this time frame?

It physically hurts you to say this, but you do know, deep down, that Trump is right.

Biden spent and shrunk the economy.
Trump spent and grew the economy. He did it when he took office in 2016 (again, magic pen). He is doing it now his first 9 months in office. and i'll say it like i said it in 2019. The only way the Republicans do not win in 2028, is if some major event collapses the economy (cue covid in 2020).

You know all of this, your TDS won't let you admit it.

I'll say again, for the 3rd time, and it's undeniable.

Biden spent, and shrunk the economy.
Trump spent, and grew/is growing the economy.

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Nice guy with a nice branded GMC HD and branded polo shirt and hat

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Exactly the type of guy I don't want working on my house. Spends too much time and money on wrapping a vehicle and getting shirts printed instead of doing real work. Give me an old guy in a white crew cab and a T-shirt instead. Prices will be better, and the work will be quality.

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Who pays for tariffs? Re-shore manufacturing to the USA and there won’t BE any tariffs :).

You may go now.

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Manufacturing jobs are down since we instituted the tariffs. Exports are way down which means layoffs.

We're gonna bail out farmers for billions due to all their unsold crops due to the tariff war.

They have been a failure in every way.

A lesson we learned almost a hundred years ago.

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I was in the driveway doing some stuff

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Butt stuff?

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This is why I come to the OT

shite's been expensive because of inflation. Four years of it will do that. As I understand, people haven't been firing, but they haven't been hiring.

Good news is interest rates have dropped. China signed some tariff relief, and Japan too, recently. Now that NVIDIA has showed profit sustainability, that should quell market uncertainty.

Can't imagine more investment generally isn't coming as a result.

I LOVE when an OT arguments makes both sides look like retards. Classic internet shite

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