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Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:11 am to 4x4tiger
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The parents have to care from the beginning
Agreed.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:13 am to SwampyWaters
I'm glad my wife will be teaching at a school in the country where everyone is close and more old fashion. I'm not glad that florida is ranked 2nd to last in teachers pay. We just had twins, and she'll be home for the next 3 years until they go to school, so im hoping the awful system will swing the other way and we'll stop paying our teachers less than minimum wage.
It's a shame that so many want to be good people and guide and teach the young and the result of that is monetary punishment. 4 years to make less than fast food workers. How is that productive? There's a reason home schooling is skyrocketing.
It's a shame that so many want to be good people and guide and teach the young and the result of that is monetary punishment. 4 years to make less than fast food workers. How is that productive? There's a reason home schooling is skyrocketing.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:15 am to BugAC
He’s a prog. “More funding” is one of his programmed responses.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:15 am to low end
Omg, all they need is more money ??. Tell me you vote for without telling me.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:15 am to Spaceman Spiff
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Was wondering when the pushback will start - could parents/former students sue because of the dumbing down of education?
Pushback has been going on for years and years from teachers. Leadership doesn’t listen because, like many corporations, they are only worried about the bottom line. In public education, that’s school scores and other data that, as OP said, can often be manipulated.
There is simply no accountability in the system for parents and students. Schools are happy to placate parents who have complaints about any disciplinary measures against their “baby” at the expense of the student body as a whole.
I won’t continue because this would turn into a tl;dr really quickly. I’ll just reiterate what I’ve said here many times, public education in its current form is not sustainable.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:15 am to rowbear1922
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God shouldn’t be in a public classroom
Who are you to say where God should or shouldn’t be? That’s laughable.
God can be anywhere he wants. I’ll add that a God of mercy grace and love is not a bad thing to have ina place where children may not get it from their parents.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:16 am to theliontamer
More of a daycare facility than a learning facility
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:17 am to SwampyWaters
1. Poor parenting
2. Unions
3. Communists undermining our education system for decades
2. Unions
3. Communists undermining our education system for decades
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:17 am to SwampyWaters
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and parents are much less involved in their child's education and it shows.
You could have stopped your post, and this thread, there. That's 99% of it.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:18 am to BHS78
Both you and the dude above you are way off base. But that's not surprising.
Since some people need things spelled out for them, I'll clarify: schools need more money spent the right ways (i.e., funding for: teachers who actually teach, after school vocational programs for kids who don't plan to or cannot afford college, etc.)
Since some people need things spelled out for them, I'll clarify: schools need more money spent the right ways (i.e., funding for: teachers who actually teach, after school vocational programs for kids who don't plan to or cannot afford college, etc.)
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:19 am to SwampyWaters
I can sum it up in a single image!
As a kid, the "Fear of God" was quite real!

As a kid, the "Fear of God" was quite real!
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:21 am to sodcutterjones
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Who are you to say where God should or shouldn’t be? That’s laughable.
God can be anywhere he wants. I’ll add that a God of mercy grace and love is not a bad thing to have ina place where children may not get it from their parents.
What about a god that believes his creation is fallen, wretched, and deserving of eternal torture unless said creation acknowledges its wretchedness and begs that god to save them from said eternal torture?
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:21 am to Lake08
God is not the correct answer….. but most religions I instill a sense of morals and accountability as instructions to live by. Which when pair with good parenting means you have better students that are receptive to learning
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:21 am to low end
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ND, WI, and NE are conservative.
Virginia and New Hampshire both have Republican governors. New Jersey and Maryland have had republican governors in recent years.
But to answer your question: No I do not think that is a factor.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:24 am to low end
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schools need more money spent the right ways
Why don't they spend the money they are currently getting in "the right ways"?
If they are wasting their current budget, why should it be increased?
This is the problem with government spending. No accountability.
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 11:25 am
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:25 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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But to answer your question: No I do not think that is a factor.
Then why would the race of the students matter? It's a completely irrelevant aspect of the discussion, unless you view minorities as separate and unequal from whites in their capacity or desire for learning.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:26 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Why don't they spend the money they are currently getting in "the right ways"?
You'd have to ask them? Unless you think they are spending it in the right ways now.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:26 am to SwampyWaters
I ain't readin all of that
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