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re: I’m a Coastal Elite From the Midwest: The Real Bubble is Rural America

Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:14 pm to
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New England and the Mid Atlantic are the so-called Coastal Elite regions. They know little to nothing about other parts of the country, unless they have traveled to those places numerous times.




HuffPo sent some of their "journalists" on a field trip to Ohio to understand that part of the country. It was a bunch of hyper-progressive feminists gawking at the poverty and drug use problems rust belt towns from a tour bus window.

A Billionaire that lives at the top of his own 5th Avenue Skyscraper is more in tune with middle America than your average "journalist". That's the sad truth.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:15 pm to
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It's much more difficult for the coastal elite to understand or appreciate life in a flyover state. It's a big part of why Hillary Clinton lost in Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, etc.


No it isn’t. If you live in NYC, you probably have a friend or coworker from the rural Midwest. Or Louisiana. Or Texas. Or South Carolina.

If you live in the rural Midwest, everyone is from there. TV does not accurately portray coastal life.

I also think it’s funny that you think Hillary lost because she doesn’t understand small towns. She’s married to a former president from a small town. She lost because she’s a terrible candidate, not because she misunderstands the rust belt.
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 12:20 pm
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:19 pm to
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I now live in Washington, D.C. All of this talk about coastal elites needing to understand more of America has it backward


You could literally walk from one end of the DC metro to the other end and always been within one of many super zips in the region (which a zip code where the average income is among the top 5%, the % of the adult population with advanced degrees is the top in the nation).

Washington DC is extremely isolated from middle America. There are only a few places more decoupled from the rust belt, deep south, or mid west than the beltway bubble.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:22 pm to
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If you live in the rural Midwest, everyone is from there. TV does not accurately portray coastal life.



TV rarely portrays anything accurately...but our media does almost exclusively represent the political interest and point of view of the coastal ruling class. It is much easier for someone living and working in Evansville to be exposed to the opinions and politics of a coastal elitist than the other way around.

And that coastal point of view is piped into every American home on almost every media outlet. They rarely make an effort to even understand middle America.

I'd also argue that both political parties are now run by coastal interests. The current POTUS being an rare exception that probably won't happen again for decades.
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 12:26 pm
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:26 pm to
You think the average Joe wants to watch a movie about story city, Iowa or New York City?

Do you think more people care about watching news on Los Angeles or bawcomville?

It's about ratings and what sells. More people care about the big individual cities than the 5000 rural towns it would take to match their population.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:28 pm to
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TV rarely portrays anything accurately...but our media does almost exclusively represent the political interest and point of view of the coastal ruling class.

And that point of view is piped into every American home on almost every media outlet. They rarely make an effort to even understand middle America.


The media doesn’t accurately portray anyone or anywhere. Hollywood is dirty and filled with homeless people. Most people don’t figure that out until they visit.
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
11583 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:29 pm to
I’ll take “Stereotyping white people again without connecting the dots” for $500, Alex.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:32 pm to
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Washington DC is extremely isolated from middle America.


Yes it is, but you missed my point.

The DC area is for the most part people who grew up in middle America, understand it quite well thank you, and concluded the best thing to do was to leave.

I go to sleep each night hearing "Taps" played at Arlington Cemetery. When I was in BR I went to sleep listening to gunshots from Gardere. I've lived in the DC area since 2000 and have not had my car stolen once. Living next to LSU for four years my car was stolen three times.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139229 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:34 pm to
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Portland is one of the whitest cities in America but I'm sure many of its residents love to preach to others about diversity and inclusion



With some of the most close minded people on Earth
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:43 pm to
Okay, this is the OT so politics probably shouldn't be here.

In my experience, the coastal elitist that wrote the article is proving just how deep in the bubble he actually is at the moment. People like them usually have no avenue of exposure to life in places like the rural mid west. Many wouldn't care even if they did.

And I say that as a person from the deep south, currently lives in Pittsburgh, has an office in San Francisco, and travels all over North America on business.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:46 pm to
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Plenty of people in big and small towns live in bubbles. But if you had to pick, rural America is a bigger bubble simply because there isn’t much cross pollination.


Rural Americans will at least visit larger coastal cities and consume entertainment and news produced in larger coastal cities.

Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
17102 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:54 pm to
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go to sleep each night hearing "Taps" played at Arlington Cemetery. When I was in BR I went to sleep listening to gunshots from Gardere. I've lived in the DC area since 2000 and have not had my car stolen once. Living next to LSU for four years my car was stolen three times.


Do you not think this has something to do with where you live in the city? I'm sure at LSU you were a lowly college student living in a poorer part of town. Living in a prominent area on Highland is a bit different than near Gardere.

DC has one of the worst homicide rates and inner cities in the country. The fact that your car has never been stolen doesn't change that. My car was never stolen when I lived in Baton Rouge, should I deduce some illogical theory based on that anecdotal evidence?
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:55 pm to
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Wait, was this election pinned on the coastal elite????



Why did CNN, NYT, and the "favorite" candidate's own campaign vastly underestimate Trump's appeal relative to Clinton in the mid west?

How did almost no one in the coastal media see that coming?
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138856 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:57 pm to
Bubble?

Mudsharking out in the country is at epidemic proportions
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122534 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:03 pm to
Okay.. The midwest is boring as frick and lacks any type of culture. Is that a big surprise?

quote:

The first gay person I knew personally was my college roommate


I am sure he knew a few gay people personally, they were just scared to come out.. People in those parts don't accept the gays all that well.

Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
17102 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:06 pm to
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also think it’s funny that you think Hillary lost because she doesn’t understand small towns. She’s married to a former president from a small town. She lost because she’s a terrible candidate, not because she misunderstands the rust belt.


Hillary didn't even bother campaigning in the rust belt. She called Trump supporters (and therefore a majority of the rust belt) deplorables, and routinely insulted a large portion of the US.

I think I'd classify that as misunderstanding.

Bill being from Arkansas helped her zilch. She got a whopping 33% vote out of her hubby's home state. She understands rural America about as well as Queen Elizabeth.
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 1:08 pm
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53837 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:08 pm to
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She understands rural America about as well as the Queen Elizabeth.

She's still out making excuses like white women vote how their husbands tell them to or the flyover states want to hold back immigrants and women. She's clueless.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
17102 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:11 pm to
Exactly. Look at how she as acted since losing. Has there ever been a candidate go on an excuse tour like we've seen from her.

She's so clueless and out of touch with reality it's baffling she made it as far as she did.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:12 pm to
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I also think it’s funny that you think Hillary lost because she doesn’t understand small towns.


She lost because she was a terrible candidate.

quote:

not because she misunderstands the rust belt.


She proudly stated that her policies would put coal miners and coal companies out of business. This was after she openly supported Obama's vastly more strict Boiler Mact restrictions in 2012.

Saying she doesn't understand small rust belt towns is an understatement. She, and a substantial portion of her own party are completely disconnected from that side of America. Many of them used to support candidates from her party.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
62193 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:12 pm to
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You never see gay couples or even interracial ones


Definitely not from the rural South.
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