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re: If you had to pick… 2023 Ford Expedition or 2023 Toyota Sequoia?
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:38 pm to ellunchboxo
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:38 pm to ellunchboxo
Then I'd get the Sequoia. I'm gonna have to go look and see what the new tech looks like.
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Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:52 pm to Random LSU Hero
Not a fan of the no V8 option on the Toyota.
Not a fan of Ford's fricked up spray on cylinder liners in their V8 or the poor long term reliability of the Ecoboost line (only took them 10 years to get it halfway sorted out).
Whose engineering team do I trust more?
Toyota.
Sadly...
Not a fan of Ford's fricked up spray on cylinder liners in their V8 or the poor long term reliability of the Ecoboost line (only took them 10 years to get it halfway sorted out).
Whose engineering team do I trust more?
Toyota.
Sadly...
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:52 pm to Oates Mustache
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Has Toyota upgraded their interior tech? If not, I'd go with the Expedition. Toyota interior tech was shite.
This is the answer of a 16 year old girl. What do you want: a 17-inch iPad in your dash or a car that will reliably last 250k+ miles, lol.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:54 pm to Random LSU Hero
Expedition
Toyotas are boring
Toyotas are boring
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:55 pm to Geert
New land cruiser is supposedly sharing tundra/sequoia running gear. It's no longer available in the US.
Land cruisers are legendary vehicles, but expeditions are also relatively long-lived vehicles compared to everything else that isn't a land cruiser. Land cruisers lasted forever because they were relatively simple mechanically, underpowered and got horrible fuel economy. Toyota is now deviating from that formula.
Land cruisers are legendary vehicles, but expeditions are also relatively long-lived vehicles compared to everything else that isn't a land cruiser. Land cruisers lasted forever because they were relatively simple mechanically, underpowered and got horrible fuel economy. Toyota is now deviating from that formula.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:57 pm to Swazla
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Also they are on a new chassis that will be shared with the new Tacoma next year. That’s why they look not as tall as other similar sized vehicles.
Yeah this is not true. The 23 sequoia shares the same frame as the Tundra (maybe that’s what you meant?) and the land cruiser. It’s much bigger than the Tacoma.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:59 pm to 10MTNTiger
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What do you want: a 17-inch iPad in your dash or a car that will reliably last 250k+ miles, lol.
The number of people that buy a new vehicle planning to keep it long enough to put 250k on it is miniscule.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:59 pm to Random LSU Hero
I’ll never buy another Ford after all the problems I had with my F-150 and the almost daily recall announcements for Fords and Lincolns. I don’t love the redesigned Sequoias and I definitely don’t love the price, but that would be my choice 10/10 times
Posted on 9/29/22 at 9:01 pm to Random LSU Hero
I have owned an Expedition. Toyota all the way. F those mpgs.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 9:01 pm to Tyga Woods
Toyota all day.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 9:04 pm to Random LSU Hero
Sequoia all day long
Fords are shite
Fords are shite
Posted on 9/29/22 at 9:06 pm to Random LSU Hero
Depends on your family situation. But we have a family with kids, and in-laws, so we bought the Ford Limited Expedition Max, especially for road trips to Colorado. That’s worked out pretty well on the long drives.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 9:08 pm to 10MTNTiger
The comparison I’d care about is the cubic feet of interior passenger room.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 9:08 pm to Shockthamonkey
And got a real trade value - the first would have been a soda can years ago
Posted on 9/29/22 at 9:09 pm to Cycledude
You got the luck part right
Posted on 9/29/22 at 9:11 pm to 10MTNTiger
quote:
This is the answer of a 16 year old girl. What do you want: a 17-inch iPad in your dash or a car that will reliably last 250k+ miles, lol.
Your response is actually one of an immature child. If I'm spending that kind of money I want both reliability and great tech. You're an idiot if you're trying to convince me that you think Toyota tech was great. It was shite.
I'm happy they've upgraded it.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 9:11 pm to AndyCBR
quote:Any news on the Yota charged V6?
Not a fan of the no V8 option on the Toyota.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 9:18 pm to Random LSU Hero
We just bought a 22 expedition timberline.
Toyota reliability is overrated af. Lot of fanboys in their tacos and 4 runners on the OT though.
Toyota reliability is overrated af. Lot of fanboys in their tacos and 4 runners on the OT though.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 9:20 pm to White Bear
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Any news on the Yota charged V6?
Mixed bag as far as I am concerned.
There are some early teething problems with some of the wastegates failing on the turbochargers.
Is this a major failure mode across the board? I dont think so. But still not a good thing...
To get to the turbochargers requires cab removal (how they decided to copy Ford on this I'll never understand) or sliding the motor back an inch or so by taking out the motor mounts.
Is the the Toyota turbo V6 a piece of junk? I doubt it since they have used the platform in other models.
Is it as reliable as the previous 5.7L V8? I seriously doubt it, but time will tell.
The buying public is the experiment these days...
Posted on 9/29/22 at 9:21 pm to Random LSU Hero
I would be hesitant on the sequoia now—new design, new platform. Would wait a year for them to work the kinks out. That said, given the two options, I’d pick the sequoia.
Sequoia if you value reliability. I’ve never seen a sequoia not last over 200k miles. Ford if you value third row legroom and cargo space. The new sequoia has minimal cargo space behind the third row from what I’ve seen, much less than previous generations.
Sequoia if you value reliability. I’ve never seen a sequoia not last over 200k miles. Ford if you value third row legroom and cargo space. The new sequoia has minimal cargo space behind the third row from what I’ve seen, much less than previous generations.
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