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Posted on 4/9/22 at 9:49 pm to Intelligent
You don’t need CS to program. You need great analytical skills and math solving.
You can learn programming with experience. You cannot teach optimal problem solving
You can learn programming with experience. You cannot teach optimal problem solving
Posted on 4/9/22 at 10:06 pm to ChickennBiscuits
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All three of the companies listed have returned to the office on at least a hybrid basis, and most are re-baselining salaries based on location.
I was speaking to the industry not just those three companies
I was speaking to the forward arc of them and not their pandemic policies
I maintain that even normalized for location someone working remote in tech in a mixed market will do better than a lot of job offers available to them.
So yes, I’ll stand by that it’s a great choice for, as an example, a rural kid, to look into aspiring to
This post was edited on 4/9/22 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 4/9/22 at 10:44 pm to GetMeOutOfHere
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Absolute clown take.
I'm sorry that you believed what the Univ of Phoenix told you.
Posted on 4/10/22 at 12:02 am to UltimaParadox
ECE GOAT
Posted on 4/10/22 at 5:45 am to hikingfan
No need. I was born a computer science expert. Amongst many, many, many other callings.
Posted on 4/10/22 at 7:55 am to BoogaBear
Wrong certs. IAT level III certs like CASP+ or CISSP and other certs will get you paid....maybe not 300K paid but if you have them, it puts you on the playing field especially for DOD contract jobs. Combine those with certifications like AWS and Linux certs and you will get a job that pays very well in IT.....or join the navy, go to C school and then become an Aegis tech. Those guys are making 120K a year
Posted on 4/10/22 at 8:27 am to glorymanutdtiger
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You don’t need CS to program. You need great analytical skills and math solving.
You can learn programming with experience. You cannot teach optimal problem solving
There's unfortunately alot that's not taught in the academic world that you have to learn yourself once in the real business world. I'd argue that soft skills may be more important than technical skill (in ANY position in fact, not just software engineering), and younger folks entering the workforce should put alot of effort into it. It's really ashamed that alot of young people today only want to ever communicate with other humans through electronic means, because that's not at all how the real business world works.
In many positions, you have to know how to navigate the many different personalities you're going to interact with, and how to tailor your communication to those personalities. You may have to dumb your message down completely when dealing with a non-technical manager or employee. You might have to stand your ground with someone who fancies themselves an alpha male before they'll respect your input. You may have to fight your way through miles of red tape and company politics at times just to get something done. You're also simply not going to get something done at times due to company politics.
Posted on 4/10/22 at 8:44 am to jdd48
For sure, It’s hard to get things done. A simple firewall rule might take a week with Infosec approval and compliance red tape.
All you want to do is make a simple API call from AWS lambda.
But I also get it, it’s needed to make sure you are protecting the data.
Learning at IT is not over if you want to grow. Programming is always changing. There is new stuff and within two years you are out of touch.
There is a lot to programming than just code. Dealing with people is a huge thing. If you want to just code, working for a small startup is a way.
All you want to do is make a simple API call from AWS lambda.
But I also get it, it’s needed to make sure you are protecting the data.
Learning at IT is not over if you want to grow. Programming is always changing. There is new stuff and within two years you are out of touch.
There is a lot to programming than just code. Dealing with people is a huge thing. If you want to just code, working for a small startup is a way.
This post was edited on 4/10/22 at 8:47 am
Posted on 4/10/22 at 9:20 am to BearsFan
Yep. That’s the rub……..they put in goofy hours.
Posted on 4/10/22 at 10:33 am to hikingfan
Except more than half of the people who work for those companies are not engineers or coders. The numbers also likely include management and equity/RSUs which vest over time. Still a good amount of money even for CA are but the degree isn’t the only key here.
Posted on 4/10/22 at 10:39 am to DomincDecoco
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dude your talking about MIT types.
Those companies don’t care where you went to college, but you have to know your stuff and show it in the interview. You also have to be a good fit personality wise.
This post was edited on 4/10/22 at 10:40 am
Posted on 4/10/22 at 10:43 am to Intelligent
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That being said, college is way too late to start learning cs/programming.
Not true
Posted on 4/10/22 at 10:57 am to hikingfan
I interviewed a kid that left LA for Cali working for Chevron. He wanted to move home but wanted to keep is 125K per year salary. He had 2 years experience. I had to tell him LA isnt the same as L.A.
Posted on 4/10/22 at 11:00 am to hikingfan
Learning a trade is still up there but your English and history degrees aren't taking you all that far.
Posted on 4/10/22 at 11:07 am to hikingfan
It's easy to say in hindsight what you should have done. I know my career goals at 17 when I started college were significantly different than now, so of course in hindsight I wished I majored in something else (despite enjoying my major).
I think you can be successful in any major if you're smart about it. Are you working a part-time job? Are you gaining leadership experience in a club? Getting an internship in the summer or sitting around doing nothing but partying?
That's one of the things I really try to stress to students when I'm meeting with them. You can't treat college like unsupervised high school.
I think you can be successful in any major if you're smart about it. Are you working a part-time job? Are you gaining leadership experience in a club? Getting an internship in the summer or sitting around doing nothing but partying?
That's one of the things I really try to stress to students when I'm meeting with them. You can't treat college like unsupervised high school.
Posted on 4/10/22 at 11:07 am to lsufan1971
If you’re in tech then there’s a huge difference in growth opportunities. Early stage career salaries don’t matter that much
Posted on 4/10/22 at 11:11 am to pelicansfan123
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think you can be successful in any major if you're smart about it.
Smart, motivated, hard working with a hunger to learn vs being a bad arse know it all. Your degree is just a tool to get you in the market.
Posted on 4/10/22 at 11:30 am to hikingfan
Not saying CS isn't a solid degree.
But it's ironic we have this thread now when 2 weeks ago a guy was on here looking for help so his CS son could find a job.
But it's ironic we have this thread now when 2 weeks ago a guy was on here looking for help so his CS son could find a job.
Posted on 4/10/22 at 11:44 am to pelicansfan123
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Are you working a part-time job? Are you gaining leadership experience in a club? Getting an internship in the summer or sitting around doing nothing but partying?
This x1000.
If you do nothing but classes and make zero attempts to get into the industry before graduation, you're going to have a rough time.
I would think this is the case for most majors.
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