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re: if two people follow me around with guns while im going for a jog

Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:27 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91273 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:27 pm to
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A 30 year veteran black cop shoots a white felon running down the street who started to assault him... Can't say that Im protesting.


What a disingenuous way to frame this situation.
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
11516 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:29 pm to
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oleyeller


So the punishment for theft is murder now? Slightly more repressive than Saudi Arabia, where you just lose a hand.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
125532 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:29 pm to
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What a disingenuous way to frame this situation.

There are some people on this board that seriously need to just log off.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
34849 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:29 pm to
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Throw in the fact that there’s been no mention of any stolen property on his person, either in the news coverage or the official reports




Not just this, there had been no reports of any burglaries or stolen property reported to the police in over a month, and the only report they had before that month was a gun stolen out of one of the shooter's cars.

But they told 911 that it was an on going problem in the neighborhood.


Somebody is lying here. I'm leaning towards them attempting a CYA to justify their actions before hand.


Which you could argue is premeditation. Which they can seek the death penalty for.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
48726 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:32 pm to
I don’t care if the dude was stealing you can’t chase the guy down the road and kill him. He was unarmed.
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10825 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:35 pm to
I don’t care if he was out stealing shite. They chased him down and murdered him. They had no cause. They were racist fricks and wanted to kill a black guy.

What if he had a gun though and fought back. Would these guys be freed like the Trayvon case?
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
4881 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:39 pm to
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It’s incredible to me that anyone is defending the killers in this case.


Yep. This board has some legitimate POS trash in here. Whether he stole or not, that doesn't permit you to chase him down and shoot. I can't believe some are truthfully trying to rationalize the McMichaels.
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
4881 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

I don’t care if he was out stealing shite. They chased him down and murdered him. They had no cause. They were racist fricks and wanted to kill a black guy.


Can't agree with you more.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58845 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:40 pm to
Kujo is a racist incel who belongs on fbi watch lists
Posted by HogBalls
Member since Nov 2014
8879 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:43 pm to
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I don’t care if the dude was stealing you can’t chase the guy down the road and kill him. He was unarmed.


No shots were fired until he went for the mans gun. If they wanted to just kill him they could have long before he went for the gun.
Posted by MLU
Member since Feb 2017
1685 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:56 pm to
Even if the guy was stealing stuff and fighting the guy off him, it's still murder.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37761 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:56 pm to
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quote:
It’s funny people think a hypothetical robbery would make any difference in the case


It does matter though, both for public perception to even what they could be charged with.



no one, not even the McMichaels, is alleging that Arbery robbed anyone. Let's try and keep the hypotheticals rooted in reality.
This post was edited on 5/9/20 at 3:57 pm
Posted by MLU
Member since Feb 2017
1685 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:57 pm to
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It’s funny that people think this guy was just out for a jog.
The only evidence presented this far was a video of someone being shot without justification, so...
Posted by Kujo
225-911-5736
Member since Dec 2015
6044 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 4:00 pm to
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What a disingenuous way to frame this situation.


What is role reversal then?

30 year vet, check
felon, check
Two 911 calls made about suspicious black guy (neither from shooters)

Black shooter yells for white felon to "stop" multiple times

White felon decides to attack black man with gun instead.



quote:

At least two 911 calls, obtained by USA TODAY, were made before the shooting. One call details the moments before Arbery was shot dead when a caller indicated a "black guy" in a "white T-shirt" was in Satilla Shores on a property under construction..."He’s been caught on the camera a bunch before ... It’s kind of an ongoing thing out here,” the caller says.



Posted by HogBalls
Member since Nov 2014
8879 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

Even if the guy was stealing stuff and fighting the guy off him, it's still murder


Say someone is breaking in your vehicle tonight and you walk outside with a pistol to stop him. When he charges you going after your pistol what are you going to do?

If you kill him are you a murderer?
Posted by FAP SAM
Member since Sep 2014
3230 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 4:12 pm to
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Say someone is breaking in your vehicle tonight and you walk outside with a pistol to stop him. When he charges you going after your pistol what are you going to do?

This is so different than the events in this case
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29044 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

No shots were fired until he went for the mans gun. If they wanted to just kill him they could have long before he went for the gun.

So it's just all good if people chase and corner people with guns and force dangerous situations?
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
21757 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 4:17 pm to
This was murder!! Everyone wants to be a tough guy with a gun on there waist. Cowards
Posted by Kujo
225-911-5736
Member since Dec 2015
6044 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 4:17 pm to
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This is so different than the events in this case


Is the difference ownership? My car vs My neighborhood? Posted above there were two 911 calls that day about the "victim".

Have two of your neighbors ever called 911 independently about something that was complete kosher?
Posted by dcw7g
Member since Dec 2003
2231 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 4:17 pm to
This is a long thread, so excuse me if this has been addressed. It seems this case hinges on a simple question: is it legal in Ga to pursue and attempt to confront and detain (with guns) someone you think may have committed a crime?

If that is legal, then the only important fact to determine is who initiated the physical confrontation.
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