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If the major concern is overwhelming our hospitals, why are MASH units not everywhere?

Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:18 am
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:18 am
The only reason for the mass shutdowns and other actions that are destroying our economy is the beloved "curve" we hear so much about.

We don't want to overwhelm our hospitals and other medical services. I somewhat agree with this, although other countries are taking different routes.

So, the only thing keeping us from just weathering the storm doing business as usual is basically hospital beds and ventilators?

All of the recent pandemics, except Ebola which was regional and contained quickly, have been flu-like respiratory type illnesses.

Hopefully, this will be a cautionary tale for the future. The government should have massive temporary hospitals ready to be deployed by the military at a moment's notice. Enough to take on virtually all of the pandemic patients, which would leave the hospitals free to mostly care for others.

It's not too late for this to happen with Coronavirus. I'm sure the military has MASH units capable of thousands of beds sitting in storage somewhere.

Why are these not being rolled out? And if they are, why are we not being told about it?

Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:18 am to
Agree. Time to roll out Pence’s camps
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 10:19 am
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:19 am to
Because suicide is painless
It brings on many changes

MASHup
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 10:21 am
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:20 am to
Ventilators, brah.
Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:20 am to
quote:

The government should have massive temporary hospitals ready to be deployed by the military at a moment's notice.


Who says they don't? The military has training at least twice a year (that I know of) to respond quickly to domestic disasters.

quote:

Why are these not being rolled out?


Have our hospitals become that overwhelmed yet?
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 10:22 am
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:21 am to
There’s not enough personnel to staff said units. It’s not like there’s a large force of healthcare professionals sitting around waiting.
Posted by DOPEman
Austin, Tejas
Member since Sep 2018
261 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:21 am to
Your solution to a virus is utilizing forward deployed surgical teams?
Posted by Buryl
Member since Sep 2016
1059 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:23 am to
If needed, they might. They also might reserve them to treat treat the military humans, who also get sick. National security and all.
Posted by Number 9 Fan
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Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:25 am to
Hospital ventilators are critical.
Proper ventilation is critical
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:26 am to
quote:

MASH

Mobile Army Surgical Hospital
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:26 am to
Who will work at them?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36587 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:27 am to
quote:

There’s not enough personnel to staff said units. It’s not like there’s a large force of healthcare professionals sitting around waiting.


I'm mainly talking about the future. It's probably too late for this one.

Perhaps the military SHOULD have a large force of medic type personnel on reserve for this type of thing. There are currently around 2 million active and reserve U.S. military.

Their mission should be changed to include this type of function.
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
11403 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:28 am to
This thing has really shown just how clueless some of y’all are when it comes to the healthcare system...
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:29 am to
quote:


It's not too late for this to happen with Coronavirus. I'm sure the military has MASH units capable of thousands of beds sitting in storage somewhere.


Thousands?


So which you plan to cover, NYC or LA?
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 10:29 am
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36587 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:29 am to
quote:

Mobile Army Surgical Hospital


OK Karen. You know what I'm talking about.

Temporary hospitals built by the military or other government agencies.

Could be in closed hospitals, shopping malls, big box stores, etc.

Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61725 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:29 am to
quote:

It's not too late for this to happen with Coronavirus. I'm sure the military has MASH units capable of thousands of beds sitting in storage somewhere.

Why are these not being rolled out? And if they are, why are we not being told about it?
Hawkeye is no longer allowed to staff the unit.

And we still don’t have ICU beds, no matter how many cuts and rents you dig up
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139229 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:29 am to
My sister said they're actually doing this in Oakland
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35695 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:30 am to
how many mash units you think we have?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36587 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:32 am to
quote:

Thousands?


So which you plan to cover, NYC or LA?


Is there a cap on "thousands"?

And again, I'm mainly talking about the future.

Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
11403 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:35 am to
And which healthcare workers do you suggest should work at these places? You know, since they already have full time jobs and there is a national shortage on healthcare employees...
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