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If Texas's central grid only relied on solar & wind energy, would anyone have electricity?
Posted on 2/18/21 at 8:58 am
Posted on 2/18/21 at 8:58 am
Looks like wind particularly went from about 20,000 Megawatt hours on February 6-8, down to nearly 0 on February 15-16th.
When someone says that this isn't about green energy, they aren't 100% truthful. Solar was never a reliable generator and still isn't. Wind output collapsed. Natural Gas plants froze but are still supplying the bulk of power to Texas according to ERCO. Unfortunately demand has spiked because of the cold weather and Texas needs all sources running optimally.
Am I off base in interpreting the below chart this way?
When someone says that this isn't about green energy, they aren't 100% truthful. Solar was never a reliable generator and still isn't. Wind output collapsed. Natural Gas plants froze but are still supplying the bulk of power to Texas according to ERCO. Unfortunately demand has spiked because of the cold weather and Texas needs all sources running optimally.
Am I off base in interpreting the below chart this way?
This post was edited on 2/18/21 at 9:01 am
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:00 am to member12
Going by that on some days wind is the biggest energy producer.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:01 am to The Boat
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Going by that on some days wind is the biggest energy producer.
True. But it's next to zero now as demand spikes.
This post was edited on 2/18/21 at 9:01 am
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:01 am to member12
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Am I off base in interpreting it this way?
Nope....any power source in Texas will have issues in temperatures that are in the teens and single digits for multiple days, but as your graph clearly shows natural gas picked up as much of the slack as it could and is the reason that some people stayed on and that people are coming back online today.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:01 am to member12
No bc wind and solar were the first to stop generating power.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:02 am to LSU316
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Nope....any power source in Texas will have issues in temperatures that are in the teens and single digits for multiple days, but as your graph clearly shows natural gas picked up as much of the slack as it could and is the reason that some people stayed on and that people are coming back online today.
God bless Natural Gas.
Solar appears to be a niche product in Texas. I think this is more appropriate for suburban homeowners or warehouse/big box stores than major energy providers.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:03 am to member12
Perhaps if the wind turbines were better designed to handle these types of conditions, things wouldn’t look as bad.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:03 am to member12
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True. But it's next to zero now as demand spikes.
How do you figure it's down to zero?
Based on that graphic, it looks like it's still on top of all others...and always has been.
Then again, I don't like that graph, so maybe I'm reading it incorrectly.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:04 am to member12
Now, no. Technology advances.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:04 am to The Boat
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Going by that on some days wind is the biggest energy producer.
Dependent on the wind.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:04 am to member12
If you want the bulk of American's to have electric cars, you want more natural gas power plants. Sort of like the ones Entergy Louisiana has built in the past decade outside Lake Charles and near New Orleans.
Nukes are the obvious answer, but the federal government changed their mind about storing the spent fuel rods. So now they are stored all over the country at nuclear plants.
Nukes are the obvious answer, but the federal government changed their mind about storing the spent fuel rods. So now they are stored all over the country at nuclear plants.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:06 am to RummelTiger
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Based on that graphic, it looks like it's still on top of all others...and always has been.
The Y axis is the total output in the grid. Not the total output per source. Wind went from the largest producer 12 days ago to near 0 today.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:07 am to member12
No, and nobody with any credibility is arguing for any state to rely solely on wind and solar.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:09 am to dewster
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The Y axis is the total output in the grid. Not the total output per source. Wind went from the largest producer 12 days ago to near 0 today.
Ah, got it now...thanks.
Yeah! Stupid fricking wind!
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:10 am to RummelTiger
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Then again, I don't like that graph, so maybe I'm reading it incorrectly.
It’s very easy to read
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:10 am to member12
I think of a portfolio when it comes to mitigating community risk. Better to be diversified than have all eggs in one basket.
I don't believe type of energy was the problem but rather an anemic preparation for an unusual event. ERCOT and PUC along with political football shenanigans for at least a decade
I don't believe type of energy was the problem but rather an anemic preparation for an unusual event. ERCOT and PUC along with political football shenanigans for at least a decade
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:10 am to The Spleen
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No, and nobody with any credibility is arguing for any state to rely solely on wind and solar.
We aren't building any more nukes or coal fired plants in this country after the few that are in the works come online. Nukes have a 40-50 year license life, with some being extended. 2050 is the sunset date for all non-renewable power generation.
So what else is there that would work in a deep freeze after 2050?
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:10 am to member12
Apparently it’s ok for wind power to contribute almost nothing when in a crisis and we blame fossil fuels for not continuing to pick up all their slack.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:10 am to member12
Can we stop making this about “green” energy and gas. The shite stopped working correctly. People need to blame shite and they always point to what they consider the bad guy.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:12 am to LSUGrrrl
Funny that wind and solar power are used in Antarctica.
Solar only works in sunlight. A kid with a Casio calculator knows that.
Turbines can freeze up. But Texas can't get power from neighbor states and in the end that hurt them more than the turbines.
Solar only works in sunlight. A kid with a Casio calculator knows that.
Turbines can freeze up. But Texas can't get power from neighbor states and in the end that hurt them more than the turbines.
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