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re: If it is possible.....serious pit bull breed convo

Posted on 4/7/18 at 5:13 pm to
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7234 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

Why are pit bulls not pit bulls?


Those dogs were in the 120lb range. A very very large American Pit Bull Terrier would be about 60lbs.
Posted by LSUTigerBait07
SD, Chicago, or New Orleans
Member since Sep 2007
2207 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 5:14 pm to
Having a mix of one, her kill instinct is way higher than our other dogs. We have boxers and a alpha huskie. Our alpha doesn't allow her to get aggressive with anything except the rabbits and gophers outside.

Same pit mix brought me a live baby squirrel in her mouth. She's unpredictable, I won't own another.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12452 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 5:14 pm to
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That's because often, they are very nice and affectionate dogs. However, there is something inside of these dogs' mind that, on rare occasions, snaps them into the predator/prey mode and they unexpectedly attack. Also, you don't hear about them attacking grown men nearly as much as women and children.


Part is that even the family lab might take a nip at a rambunctious kid here and there but that bite is likely just going to catch the dog a beating while the Pitts jaw is news worthy against a fragile child
Posted by TigaMatt37
Member since Mar 2018
37 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 5:17 pm to
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10970 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 5:19 pm to
I actually got a rescue Pit my son brought home from death row and I am about as polar opposite as the normal Pit owner as there could be. I also just moved back to Monroe. Been in Houston for 25 years. Just love to knuckle check someone for calling me a POS.
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7234 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 5:19 pm to
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family lab might take a nip at a rambunctious kid here and there but that bite is likely just going to catch the dog a beating

That would catch him a bullet at my house. Anybody that tolerates any bite (especially kids) is irresponsible.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31273 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 5:24 pm to
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I let my Pit around my kid all the time. Let me know what Sonic you want to call me a POS at in Monroe please.



Why put your kids in harms way?
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
45126 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 5:32 pm to
Show him your god damn knuckles, David
Posted by DustyDinkleman
Here
Member since Feb 2012
19313 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 5:34 pm to
quote:

I would rather live next to a pedophile than a pit bull.


Know how I know you don’t have kids?
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
13443 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 5:39 pm to
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pits are great dogs. They need to be bred correctly and if you raise them right they will be a great dog for you.


Right until the switch flips in their head and they decide to eat you...
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37681 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 6:00 pm to
quote:

The attacks happen with other breeds, just less often.


That’s bs. Other breeds don’t kill ppl when they attack is the only difference.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30026 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 6:16 pm to
quote:

I am about as polar opposite as the normal Pit owner as there could be.


quote:

I also just moved back to Monroe


Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31273 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

pits are great dogs. They need to be bred correctly and if you raise them right they will be a great dog for you.



Thought every pit owner ever until they snap and turn out to be not so great.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52906 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 6:23 pm to
quote:


That's because often, they are very nice and affectionate dogs. However, there is something inside of these dogs' mind that, on rare occasions, snaps them into the predator/prey mode and they unexpectedly attack. Also, you don't hear about them attacking grown men nearly as much as women and children.


70% this.

30% warning signs being ignored or dismissed.

The big snap didn’t come out of no where.

They just couldn’t sweep it under the rug anymore.
This post was edited on 4/7/18 at 6:25 pm
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4802 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 6:26 pm to
What is hard to understand? The breed attracts low functioning owners.
Posted by LeauxCountryTigah
Her Nether Regions
Member since Jan 2008
453 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 6:30 pm to
Quite often there is more to the story...as is the case with the story about the female jogger you are asking about. The dogs were raised from pups as indoor dogs. She had to move to a new location where she couldn't keep them so they were left at her fathers where they underwent a drastic lifestyle change. Her father kept them outside 24/7 and gave them no attention. She supposedly came to look after them several times a week but otherwise they were left all alone. This went on for months before the incident which created a dramatic shift in the dogs perceived hierarchy. There is almost always a story of neglect and/or mistreatment preceding these incidents. Granted, you don't here these kinds of stories about a Corgi but maybe that is only because they are incapable of inflicting that level of damage to a person. I have seen dogs of all breeds lash out and become aggressive but if they are not capable of causing serious harm it doesn't make the news.

Story
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30026 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 6:36 pm to
The reality is every adult dog is a potential (however great or small) danger to an infant. As the dogs get bigger and more powerful that potential danger extends to older/larger humans. At a point dogs become a danger to even a 240# MMA fighter.

Every dog kept in a household is a potential risk, calculated or not, the facts show that pits are far and away the highest risk of any dog. I take a risk with my sweet little 45# Basset bitch and a higher one with my 100# Ridgeback dog but there should be little doubt in anyone's mind that a 60# pit is a statistically exponentially higher risk than those or essentially any other dog.

While nurture is vitally important in a dog's demeanor the nature of a pit bull is one of the most likely to overwhelm proper nurturing and become extremely aggressive with little provocation.
Posted by genevabuck
Member since Apr 2018
3 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 6:41 pm to
Pit Bull owners should be required to carry multi-million dollar insurance policies.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 6:41 pm to
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Lets say I really do not understand the pit bull breed


It’s pretty easy to understand

Pit bulls were born and bred to attack and kill

What don’t you get?
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12213 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 6:43 pm to
In an effort to get people to undig their heels out if the ground on this issue, I'll humor you.

quote:

1. Please explain the female jogger who raised two pit bulls from puppies goes out on a run one day and is found dead. The pit bulls still were by her ravaged body when it was found.


If I remember correctly, the dogs were mixed with another breed that allowed them to be twice the size as a pure bred pit. Also the dogs had been locked away for some time and neglected.

quote:

Why does it seem that every time a pit bull attacks and kills a child the owner says something to the affect “she/he has always been the sweetest dog


Because the dog usually is. American Pit Bull Terriers were bred to be nanny dogs for the children of the wealthy. The dogs purpose was to make sure that nothing ran off with the child. They were to be a playmate and a protector.

The reason we have so many attacks now is that the level of training that the dogs and handlers go through is in general insufficient to ensure the dog behaves as it should and works as it was bred to do.

That being said most dog and handler training for pets is insufficient, but the difference is that a 60 pound pit can hurt you a whole lot more than a 15 pound corgi.
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