re: If ISIS Were To Attack America

If they were okay with the suicide part of the mission I think the easiet thing to do would be to have about 10 dudes rush through stadium gates after it was full and sprint through stadium section tunnels and just hit the buttons after they emerged in the bleachers. Would kill several thousand pretty quick.

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I'm not saying Billy and buddies ride down the street shooting shotguns would have prevented an attack. The southeast has a larger number of people who own/use guns. To say that the possibility of concealed carries couldn't hinder an attack is ignorant.

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It could, but there have been people, cough, Trump, cough, who act like having concealed weapons will be the answer. It won't. It may thwart an attack or three, or limit the body count. Or maybe it won't, and never will.

Take Paris. One attack in a concert hall, the other in a bar. As someone with a CCL, I wouldn't be carrying in either scenario. Why? Because I'd be drinking like most people. A lot of things have to come together to thwart a well-organized attack. You have to have people carrying, you have to have a situation that allows people who are carrying to make a difference (see Nairobi mall situation for a scenario that could be very difficult to stop), and you have to have someone who carries who is capable of taking appropriate action.

Do I think our laws give us a better "fighting chance"? Sure. But for those people, few as they may be, who think this type of attack isn't a huge threat to us, they're insane.

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Maybe alcohol is what we need to get rid of, rather than restricting the carry of weapons.

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America without guns and booze would suck

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If they were okay with the suicide part of the mission I think the easiet thing to do would be to have about 10 dudes rush through stadium gates after it was full and sprint through stadium section tunnels and just hit the buttons after they emerged in the bleachers. Would kill several thousand pretty quick.

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That was the plan at the French stadium. The first bomber was stopped by a security guard and blew himself up outside, which spooked the others into detonating prematurely.

I go and it never looks half that crowded. Go in November or April.

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If ISIS Were To Attack America

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Bernie and Hillary would blame it on Global Warming.

The country would elect whoever promises to act.

Every time I've gone, the fireworks show generally has everyone coming into the middle like that.

I'm probably just going at the worst times.

The fireworks are when you hit the best rides.

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Take Paris. One attack in a concert hall, the other in a bar. As someone with a CCL, I wouldn't be carrying in either scenario. Why? Because I'd be drinking like most people. A lot of things have to come together to thwart a well-organized attack. You have to have people carrying, you have to have a situation that allows people who are carrying to make a difference (see Nairobi mall situation for a scenario that could be very difficult to stop), and you have to have someone who carries who is capable of taking appropriate action.

Do I think our laws give us a better "fighting chance"? Sure. But for those people, few as they may be, who think this type of attack isn't a huge threat to us, they're insane.

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Exactly. An open mall during the middle of the day is one thing, but people are greatly underestimating how chaotic a dark, noisy theater is. That would be the literal worst case scenario for a single environment to contain.