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If dying after diagnosed with Covid - is that automatically assumed to be a Covid death?
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:08 am
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:08 am
To someone in the know - If an 85 year old man with terminal lung cancer dies after being diagnosed with Covid - is that automatically assumed to be a Covid death and not a lung cancer death?
If so, why is this being done?
If so, why is this being done?
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:09 am to goofball
Yes.
Got to pump up those numbers
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If so, why is this being done?
Got to pump up those numbers
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:09 am to goofball
automatic COVID death
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:09 am to goofball
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is that automatically assumed to be a Covid death and not a lung cancer death?
Yes
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If so, why is this being done?
You already know why
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:10 am to goofball
Why? $$$$$
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:10 am to goofball
In Sweden, if a person dies of anything within 30 days of testing positive for SARS-CoV-2, it counts as a CoviD death...from what I've seen.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:10 am to goofball
I don’t know in that scenario, but apparently there’s been some people coming into hospitals with gunshot wounds and dying of Covid.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:11 am to goofball
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dying after diagnosed with Covid - is that automatically assumed to be a Covid death?
Them and all their progeny will be counted as corona deaths
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:11 am to goofball
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If so, why is this being done?
IIRC it being done for $39K, or $13K, I'll need some help with the number.
I read that a CV patient has no limit, no out of pocket expenses. Gov makes insurance company pick up the tab.
No link, some guy in Colorado in hospital for 60 days with CV got a $1.3MM bill. Insurance covered the entire cost, by fed mandate.
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 8:15 am
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:12 am to TDcline
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I don’t know in that scenario, but apparently there’s been some people coming into hospitals with gunshot wounds and dying of Covid.
There was that guy in Colorado that died of alcohol poisoning, but tested positive for SARS 2.0, which caused them to count him as a SARS death.
That actually made Colorado change the way they reported deaths, though.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:12 am to TDcline
A lady from the EBRP coroner's office said aboot 6 weeks ago that anything that is not a gunshot is called Covid.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:12 am to goofball
Hospital gets more gov't funding the more cases/deaths
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:14 am to the_watcher
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You already know why
I think it's related to healthcare compensation.....but why is it structured this way?
We are right to point out that China lies about their numbers. But we are putting out misleading numbers too if we are counting EVERY death of a person that tested positive (or even suspected) as a Covid death.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:14 am to goofball
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is that automatically assumed to be a Covid death?
Not if you fall off a building.
This topic was worn out weeks ago.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:16 am to goofball
Camp neighbors mother passed away from cancer in April. She was tested for covid after the fact and tested positive. She was counted as a covid death
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:17 am to TBoy
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Not if you fall off a building.
this is a great idea, you should run with it.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:17 am to goofball
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To someone in the know - If an 85 year old man with terminal lung cancer dies after being diagnosed with Covid - is that automatically assumed to be a Covid death and not a lung cancer death?
Yes.
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If so, why is this being done?
Some would say it is because the government wants to increase the number of deaths. The probable reason is that in some cases, it is difficult to know what *officially* triggered the death. If someone with terminal cancer was also diagnosed COVID-19, and dies - did the COVID-19 accelerate the death? As a medical professional, you would have to say that COVID-19 was a contributor, although the patient would have died anyway. I think they just standardized it to take out any ambiguity - if you have it and die, you died from COVID-19. Since it is the government, there is no room for critical thinking and determinations - like this guy was in a car accident, died and had COVID-19. Obviously, he died from the impact of the accident, not COVID-19. The Federal Government does not want the data to be interpreted on a local level.
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 8:19 am
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:21 am to goofball
Well if the covid wore him out so badly that the lung cancer was able to take him, I would think covid is at least a contributing factor.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:21 am to Sasquatch Smash
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In Sweden, if a person dies of anything within 30 days of testing positive for SARS-CoV-2, it counts as a CoviD death
That’s dumb
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:35 am to TDsngumbo
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That’s dumb
Yep, a very liberal count, for sure.
Norway, or one of those other countries out that way, isn't counting deaths outside of hospitals. So, not counting long-term care facilities. No wonder their numbers are so low...
However, keep those facts in mind whenever the media tries to compare numbers between countries, tells you that Sweden made a terrible choice, or says Sweden has performed worse than its neighbors.
(Again, from information I've seen online. No in depth research there.)
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 8:36 am
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