re: Idaho Murders Thread (Links inside)

It was described as a party house.

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"There were parties that were kind of loud," he said. "As I would take my dog in and out to go to the bathroom, I would just be walking by, I would look up and I would see people in the windows almost every night, probably four or five nights a week. There were a lot of people that went into and out of that house pretty frequently."

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Probably an exaggeration but it does sound like a social gathering place.

Reddit/4chan has two solid possible POI/theories. There are two guys with some interesting ties to the girls. They are unrelated to each other but after going down the rabbit hole I think it’s gotta be one of these guys.

One is a neighbor and Ethan may have gotten him kicked out of his frat. There was also an altercation this guy was involved with earlier in the night. This guy is an avid hunter with many pics of animals he has gutted on social media. So he knew how to use a knife like the one used in the murders.

The other guy lives in WA state but is a known creep and liked the girls recent IG posts about ‘I would die for you’ that they sent to each other. He also posted about the story on his social media. Knife nut as well. He followed several of the girls that lived together but was not followed back by any and had no apparent real world connection to them at all. Interestingly enough within hours of the Reddit post about him he started undoing all his likes/comments on the murdered girls pictures. So he was either following closely or ppl started contacting him. Strange regardless.

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Reddit/4chan has two solid possible POI/theories. There are two guys with some interesting ties to the girls. They are unrelated to each other but after going down the rabbit hole I think it’s gotta be one of these guys.

One is a neighbor and Ethan may have gotten him kicked out of his frat. There was also an altercation this guy was involved with earlier in the night. This guy is an avid hunter with many pics of animals he has gutted on social media. So he knew how to use a knife like the one used in the murders.

The other guy lives in WA state but is a known creep and liked the girls recent IG posts about ‘I would die for you’ that they sent to each other. He also posted about the story on his social media. Knife nut as well. He followed several of the girls that lived together but was not followed back by any and had no apparent real world connection to them at all. Interestingly enough within hours of the Reddit post about him he started undoing all his likes/comments on the murdered girls pictures. So he was either following closely or ppl started contacting him. Strange regardless.

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Were pictures of either of the suspects posted on either site?

We must have gone down the same rabbit holes because these are the exact two that I have suspicions about also. Curious which one it is. Agree it has to be one of them. I really think it will be the Jack which is the neighbor and the same guy who followed them at the food truck. I think the police are saying he's been cleared to keep him comfortable and hoping he doesn't run or commit suicide. I think the other guy is just autistic or has Asperger's and doesn't know much about social cues. He just has a fascination with all girls. He was supposedly on that family trip with his dad also. If his dad is lying for him, then that will be crazy. We shall see. I think a break will come this next week. Takes a little while for all evidence to be gone through.

Definitely pics of the Washington guy were posted. They posted a pic of him of his Social media. The pic was one he posted the night of the murders. Its him and his dad out at dinner in Washington

Its neither of these guys. They cleared the grub truck stalker.there not playing mind games trying to keep him comfortable. They would of served a search warrant on his house if they thought it was him. Thats not happened according to locals.

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Most serial killers do targeted attacks. They pick victims and stalk them. Not sure why using the phrase targeted attack would ease any minds.

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I agree. They keep saying targeted but I don’t think that means they knew him. I think he chose them as his victims.

Earlier in the thread someone suggested that the killer was already in the house when the two girls returned him. He had already killed the couple by the time they returned home. This sounds very plausible to me. Perhaps the girls started calling the BF because they heard noises and were scared but didn’t want to call the police bc they they were drunk.

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Earlier in the thread someone suggested that the killer was already in the house when the two girls returned him. He had already killed the couple by the time they returned home. This sounds very plausible to me. Perhaps the girls started calling the BF because they heard noises and were scared but didn’t want to call the police bc they they were drunk.

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It seems unlikely that they wouldn’t just call the police anyway if they were scared enough to call the ex over for protection. Recreational pot is legal in Idaho (Edit: Wait, it isn’t. My bad.), so they would need harder drugs to be afraid of getting busted. Doesn’t mean they just weren’t being rational (due to drinking) and somehow thought the ex was better than the police. It just doesn’t seem likely.

Also, if the killer targeted the couple on the second floor, why not just slip out undetected once the girls upstairs went to bed? I could see something happening during the course of the killing of the couple that caused the killer to think the upstairs girls might have heard something and caused him to escalate to kill off the potential witnesses.

But if he had already killed the couple and if the girls had gone upstairs without noticing, it seems he would have known he could just slip out scot-free. (Police estimate the girls got home at 1:45 and the last call to the bf was at 2:52.)

I dunno. Maybe the killer was in the house at 1:45 and was getting impatient with how long the girls upstairs were taking to go to bed?

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Recreational pot is legal in Idaho

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No it’s not.

People are really caught up on those calls to the ex-boyfriend and its a big nothing burger. If they had any fear at all they have many other friends they would have been calling instead of being desperate to reach this one guy. If they had fear they would not have went to sleep much less alone in their own rooms. If they had fear they would have woken up the others in the house.

The Madison girl was stumbling as she tried to stand near the food truck so she probably was out soon after arriving home. Kaylee could have easily grabbed her phone to call the ex when he did not answer her calls.

I am still on the premise the killer was in the house when they got home. Their is good and bad for the investigators. The good is that this happened on a Saturday night and probably a lot of students were out of town. That narrows the filed of potential suspects.

The bad is that the school going remote is going to make it more difficult to solve. The normal routine of everyone associated with the school is now thrown off so that someone's abnormal behavior is not going to be obvious to others around them.

There is a lot that is unknown as for what the police know or don't know. I think most of the information being talked about and speculated on is coming predominantly from Kaylees family thus most of the focus on her actions and stalker claim. It is amazing to me how tight lipped everyone else has been. The surviving roommates and their friends have let nothing out about the hours before or after to this point.