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re: Idaho Murders Thread (Links inside)
Posted on 11/23/22 at 5:21 pm to Indefatigable
Posted on 11/23/22 at 5:21 pm to Indefatigable
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I don’t get why everyone is hung up on those calls when the guy has been cleared.
10 calls, from 2 different victims, in 30 minutes, shortly before being murdered.
I'm not suspicious of the guy they called, I'm curious as to why they called him.
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 5:21 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Was it me or did the police chief gave a nonanswer to the question about an Army? ROTC cadet as a suspect?
Seems that comes from speculation about a Kbar being the murder weapon, which seems specious to me - unless they have a possible suspect id'd because: 1. I doubt Kbars are part of the TA 50 issued to cadets having been in ROTC myself and 2. anyone can buy a Kbar online.
Seems that comes from speculation about a Kbar being the murder weapon, which seems specious to me - unless they have a possible suspect id'd because: 1. I doubt Kbars are part of the TA 50 issued to cadets having been in ROTC myself and 2. anyone can buy a Kbar online.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 5:22 pm to Indefatigable
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I don’t get why everyone is hung up on those calls when the guy has been cleared.
I don’t think anyone on this page of the thread is once again implicating the ex-bf. We’re wondering if the calls were made because they wanted him to come over and shoo off a peeping tom or creeper they could see from the windows.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 5:23 pm to Delacroix22
Any details attached to that picture?
Posted on 11/23/22 at 5:25 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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I'm not suspicious of the guy they called, I'm curious as to why they called him.
Right. I guess my point was that given he’s been cleared, the reasoning/circumstance seems obvious to me. They were drunk and were either messing around/wanting a booty call, etc.
I’d find it much less likely that they decided to call some guy for thirty minutes instead of the police if they were scared of something
Posted on 11/23/22 at 5:27 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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But because it happened so close to the time of the murders (coroner estimates 3-4 as the time of death, and the final phone call was attempted at 2:52), and she get her roommate in on the action by having her call him for some reason, it really raises so alarms that they needed some help for some reason.
Apophenia. Kind like how you were warning about the garbage science of FBI profiling. Seeing meaning where none exists.
If they needed help, they would have called 911.
Caveat…I could see it being connected if the killer wanted the boyfriend for some reason, and went through the housemates to get his attention. Failing to get it…
But that’s just making up conspiracies like we are wont to do.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 5:30 pm to Sasquatch Smash
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Apophenia. Kind like how you were warning about the garbage science of FBI profiling. Seeing meaning where none exists.
I suppose that’s a fair point. For the record, I’m just saying it raises suspicion in me personally. It might not be anything to it.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 5:33 pm to NATidefan
Think we have to assume that these PC are as much disinformation as anything else. If they don’t know, they can’t say. If they do know, they can’t say.
Remain of the opinion that these things are either “solved” quickly or drag on indefinitely. It’s comforting to believe in clues and forensics and scientific crime solving but does that happen often? Without a targeted suspect? I think not.
Remain of the opinion that these things are either “solved” quickly or drag on indefinitely. It’s comforting to believe in clues and forensics and scientific crime solving but does that happen often? Without a targeted suspect? I think not.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 5:37 pm to Indefatigable
My guess is booty calls. Once he didn't answer Her first 3 or 4 calls she asks for her friends phone thinking he's screening her calls but might answer if its the other girls phone.
Also a rumor that a text is sent in the same time frame saying something to the effect of hey we have a dog together why won't you answer me.
Also a rumor that a text is sent in the same time frame saying something to the effect of hey we have a dog together why won't you answer me.
This post was edited on 11/23/22 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 11/23/22 at 5:41 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Alright chief
Posted on 11/23/22 at 5:53 pm to NastyNatiNole
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Also a rumor that a text is sent in the same time frame saying something to the effect of hey we have a dog together why won't you answer me.
That might strain credulity for me.
Booty call might be one thing. And maybe she was in a mood at that point…but to get your roommate involved in lovers’ spat over a dog when the roommate would be pretty damn tired would probably be a bit uncalled for. Not saying it’s impossible, just a bit much to believe. I would need to see the texts to begin to believe it.
I can buy her getting liquid courage to call him over, especially since the girl on the second floor had a bf over. Probably didn’t want her to have all the fun that night.
It’s at least a tad bit more forgivable (if not a LOT more) to bother your dog-tired roommate for some help getting some dick than to bother them because you’re in a late-night mood about the dog you’re babysitting for your ex.
This post was edited on 11/23/22 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 11/23/22 at 6:15 pm to UndercoverBryologist
I think this all coming from Kaylee's Mom and sister. They have done a few interviews and from what I gather have seen the texts and calls. Im pretty sure they are the reason we know all those phone calls even took place. Would have to go back and watch. It was one of if not there first interview.
I took it as a booty call going unanswered and she threw in the dog text to try and finally guilt him into picking up the phone
I took it as a booty call going unanswered and she threw in the dog text to try and finally guilt him into picking up the phone
Posted on 11/23/22 at 6:21 pm to NastyNatiNole
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I took it as a booty call going unanswered and she threw in the dog text to try and finally guilt him into picking up the phone
Okay, I can buy that then.
Like I said, a roommate would go above and beyond to help out a fellow roommate get laid. But you can go frick yourself if you’re my roommate and you want to use my phone at 2:45 to talk about a dog.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 6:54 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Was talking to my college age daughter (no pics) who has been following along and she think it's a possibility a girl did it cause it almost sounds like some "mean girls" type of thing. And I can't say that I don't think it's a possibility too.
1. No sexual aspect that we know of.
2. Killing with a knife is usually an act of rage. But whoever did this obviously pre-planned it to some degree. It's not like most stabbings that happen in the heat of the moment of a fight or argument.
3. Girls could be more likely to use a knife than a gun if they aren't familiar with them or don't own one.
4. These girls were obviously the cliquish sorority type that could have done or said harsh things the way girls tend to do to gain a hatred from others.
5. If they were targets as they say, the killer(s) went after 3, possibly 4 people, not just one. And the guy may have just been a victim of chance because he just happened to sleep over that night.
6. There is something that makes the police think they were targeted... possibly some mean message(s) left indicating hate towards the girls, but not revealing enough to say who the killer is?
7. To kill with a knife like that you either have to really hate someone or be a psycho. (I know girls can let that type of hate build up and sometimes be psycho for sure, lol). The BFs don't seem to be suspects... so then you are left with ex-friends, stalker types, or a psycho. But if it was a stalker type wouldn't they more likely just go after the one they are stalking while they are alone? And if it was a psycho then the police wouldn't be acting like they have been as far as the targeting part goes.
8. The killer(s) have been described as sloppy and believed to be young.
I know most people don't think a girl(s) would be capable of this... but girls can be viscous as teenagers and young adults and many have done such things or worse.
Also, if they were killed between 3-4 and the girls didn't go to bed til 3. The killer(s) were either really lucky or they were watching the house. Girls go to bed at 3, wait 30 minutes to hope they are asleep, gonna take you I would think at least 15 minutes or more to get in, stab 4 people, and get out minimum.
1. No sexual aspect that we know of.
2. Killing with a knife is usually an act of rage. But whoever did this obviously pre-planned it to some degree. It's not like most stabbings that happen in the heat of the moment of a fight or argument.
3. Girls could be more likely to use a knife than a gun if they aren't familiar with them or don't own one.
4. These girls were obviously the cliquish sorority type that could have done or said harsh things the way girls tend to do to gain a hatred from others.
5. If they were targets as they say, the killer(s) went after 3, possibly 4 people, not just one. And the guy may have just been a victim of chance because he just happened to sleep over that night.
6. There is something that makes the police think they were targeted... possibly some mean message(s) left indicating hate towards the girls, but not revealing enough to say who the killer is?
7. To kill with a knife like that you either have to really hate someone or be a psycho. (I know girls can let that type of hate build up and sometimes be psycho for sure, lol). The BFs don't seem to be suspects... so then you are left with ex-friends, stalker types, or a psycho. But if it was a stalker type wouldn't they more likely just go after the one they are stalking while they are alone? And if it was a psycho then the police wouldn't be acting like they have been as far as the targeting part goes.
8. The killer(s) have been described as sloppy and believed to be young.
I know most people don't think a girl(s) would be capable of this... but girls can be viscous as teenagers and young adults and many have done such things or worse.
Also, if they were killed between 3-4 and the girls didn't go to bed til 3. The killer(s) were either really lucky or they were watching the house. Girls go to bed at 3, wait 30 minutes to hope they are asleep, gonna take you I would think at least 15 minutes or more to get in, stab 4 people, and get out minimum.
This post was edited on 11/23/22 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 11/23/22 at 7:08 pm to NATidefan
I wouldn’t put it outside the realm of possibility that a woman did it, but it’s a helluva physical activity to butcher 4 people in a speed run through a dark house. Odds would seem to lean towards a male perp, but again, it’s not impossible it could have been a woman.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 7:12 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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it’s a helluva physical activity to butcher 4 people in a speed run through a dark house
Agreed, but there are definitely aspects that make it seem to have more of a woman's "feel" to me I guess.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 7:34 pm to bikerack
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They are not willing to release why they think this was a targeted attack.
Maybe one of the victims had some significantly more stab wounds than the others. Maybe clothing cut off. Maybe a lot more bloody footprints in the room. Those could all indicate a targeted attack and they don’t want to release it to scare off the murderer, who might think he/she is getting away with it at this point.
Either way, just because this one was targeted, doesn’t mean the murderer wouldn’t/couldn’t strike again….
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:16 pm to Indefatigable
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Right. I guess my point was that given he’s been cleared, the reasoning/circumstance seems obvious to me. They were drunk and were either messing around/wanting a booty call, etc.
I’d find it much less likely that they decided to call some guy for thirty minutes instead of the police if they were scared of something
My problem with them being scared of a stalker or peeping Tom theory is….. if they were so scared why didn’t they go check to see if the doors were locked prior to going to sleep. Police said there was no forced entry so one of the doors must have been unlocked. Also, how did they fall asleep so easily if they were in fear of someone outside their apartment. Just my 2 cents on that theory
This post was edited on 11/23/22 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:53 pm to Bourre
When I watched the food truck video, I got the feeling that the girls were bothered by the creepy stalker and called the ex-bf as a show of force. Maybe the guy can kick arse. The way they ditched out of there told me they were annoyed w him.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:59 pm to 3D
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The way they ditched out of there told me they were annoyed w him.
Yeah…so annoyed and worried that the one girl filmed the other girl getting the food and then walking away without concern of where they dude was.
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