re: Idaho Murders Thread (Links inside)

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Hacking 4 ppl to death is physically demanding.

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Hmmmm.

I learned this years ago with the Jon Benet case because I lived there and was friends with many of the principles in that case. The shite people say , the theories they spin, the ferocity in which they argue absolute bullshite, amazes me.

Here you have a loser with sociopathic tendencies. He’s probably suicidal. At some point he says “ f that “ and decides he’s going to kill. It’s a sexual compulsion, a psychological obsession to kill. It was going to happen eventually, in Utah in Pennsylvania etc. he went to that house with a mission to complete. And he completed that mission, whatever that was to him. It had built and built over many years.And so he did. Had it not been them it would have been someone else next month or next year. We don’t have to understand it, he understands it. He had a decision- logic and he executed a plan. There are 100 other guys battling this same impulse to murder. And all these stupid theories do nothing to help us understand a motive we can’t possibly feel ourselves.

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"I felt no emotion and along with the depersonalization, I can say and do whatever I want with little remorse," he added. "Everyone hates me pretty much I am an a-hole."

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This describes a healthy dose of our Poli Board’s posters too.

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And all these stupid theories do nothing to help us understand a motive we can’t possibly feel ourselves.

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Bingo. A dissociated sociopath kills young girls over his social issues. Its not anything a normal person would be able to understand. We have normal emotions, he doesnt have any except anger.

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She was moved out of the house and simply visiting that weekend which would jeopardize the Gonclaves being the main target story. Unless he somehow knew she was back in town maybe via social media as believe there were pictures from that day of all the girls together.

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There were posts earlier that day on social media including the widely circulated ones with the roommates and Ethan all together. I would also think there were more with Kaylee purchasing her car that day and then also possibly that night while out and while trying to call ex. You could see her taking pics at least in food truck video.

I don’t think it was planned for that night. He may have thought he could plan the perfect murder and had stalked one or more of the roommates, but something triggered it to happen that night. It wasn’t necessarily Kaylee’s last weekend with roommates. Even if she didn’t have any final exams or other required coursework Kaylee would have been back for her graduation, but I guess that would mean more uncertainty on her plans and more people around house, at college, and in town.

If Kaylee alone targeted and others required or opportunistic I am not sure how dog being shut in her room works in or why go through house to kill Xana and Ethan instead of just leaving back out the patio door after coming downstairs from 3rd floor.

It could go to social media posts again showing what room she was in, but even if Kaylee locked dog in her old bedroom before falling asleep you would think killer would go there first if she was target unless he knew which room she was in or went to Madison’s first. Even if not overly aggressive or protective the still young dog would have been inquisitive and possibly feeling left out and taken opportunity to bolt to Madison’s room. It is possible outside of Kaylee’s door killer could turn back and be able to see both asleep in Madison’s room, but how easily probably depends on placement of bed and lighting.

With Xana the killer might have come downstairs when Xana was putting food delivered away and made her go back to her room, but if not then he passed up leaving house to go to that room to kill her specifically.

Its a little easier with the little we know to just think he killed who he found in each room of his targets - Madison and Xana than Kaylee being main target.

I feel like he wanted to kill several if not as many roommates as he could not just one (with maybe Kaylee returning & posting pics again with them together triggering need to happen that night or maybe Kaylee and dog being there unplanned for), but it started to get noisy and was in house longer than expected and then left without seeing Dylan including possibly thinking her room was empty in first place, unsure at that point who could all be also be in room with Dylan and awake or if cops on the way, or just not caring at that point with need to kill gone with main focus already killed or satiated just enough to realize he needed to get out. If he did want to kill more I wonder if he got pissed when was in back area a little after 9am and didn’t see any activity.

If you're really interested Gray Hughes has a worthwhile podcast

He didn’t do it..

Why do you say that?

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Why was there no blood in the car?

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Is that official?