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Posted on 1/9/23 at 6:53 pm to
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 6:53 pm to
Has there been excessive accusations and “beating up” on her?
Posted by HouseMom
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 6:54 pm to
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I wish we could leave the whole "targeted" discussion behind, it doesn't mean anything deeper than the fact that this wasn't a random crime of opportunity committed by some serial killer.


I don't know that , and neither do you. We're all just speculating.

The day of the crime, the police determined there was "no active threat" after about an hour. Their words, not mine. What did they see that gave them that impression? HOW would they know this enough to make a statement?

I completely see what you're saying with the brutality of it all, but that almost makes it less targeted. If it were just one person, maybe. Anyway, it will all come out eventually. Lots of rumors are flying around campus.

Kids knew them and will talk. There is always a bit of truth in every rumor, so at some point we'll get a better picture.
Posted by NastyNatiNole
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 6:57 pm to
Yea, his source is the blonde female from YouTube that read that info off her phone word for word exactly what he posted here a day or two after her video.
Posted by wutangfinancial
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 7:03 pm to
I haven’t noticed it since the affidavit and as information gets better. At first there was drug speculation but that seems irrelevant at this point other than explaining why she may have passed out.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 7:03 pm to
You keep saying this, but I haven't seen this video you're referring to. Perhaps my sauce's sauce was the video

What difference does it make anyway? I never claimed to have inside information.

Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 7:05 pm to
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Has there been excessive accusations and “beating up” on her?

Only that she was possibly drunk or high or trippin. Hell one theory yesterday claimed her bf was dealing drugs and the others found out about it so the bf hired BK to murder them. Oh and then he swung by the house the next morning to get paid for the killing. Yeah she’s been beat up quite a bit with some stupid accusations
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 7:19 pm to
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I don't know that , and neither do you. We're all just speculating.

The day of the crime, the police determined there was "no active threat" after about an hour. Their words, not mine. What did they see that gave them that impression? HOW would they know this enough to make a statement?


And I'm saying the scene inside, the location, the sleepy college town, the victims' past and known acquaintances, the brutality, the facts of the crime scene and house made it fairly obvious that it wasn't just some random crime of opportunity from the jump. Someone just looking to kill at random doesn't make any of the choices or moves the killer made, not to mention kill with that brutality and anger.

That's how they determined it wasn't an active threat just out there committing random murders when he has the open window of opportunity.

It was a fairly safe assumption that these murders were "targeted" and had some sort of reasoning and emotion behind them from the beginning, when there were almost zero facts floating out there. And that's just based on the circumstances
Posted by exiledhogfan
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 7:28 pm to
I don't think that sounds unreasonable.
Posted by NastyNatiNole
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 7:33 pm to
Here you can watch it if you want. Start at minute 51 i believe.

source
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 7:50 pm to
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It was a fairly safe assumption that these murders were "targeted" and had some sort of reasoning and emotion behind them from the beginning, when there were almost zero facts floating out there. And that's just based on the circumstances


Targeted only in the sense that he wanted to kill. BK arrived at WSU in late June. The campus is 1700 miles from his home. Cell phone pings put him in the area at least 12 times, late at night going back 2 months prior to the killing. That means that within 3 months of his arrival to a place he’d likely never been, he was actively hunting, stalking and plotting his crime. We know his educational background and interests and the phd he was pursuing. We also know that he was online in a Facebook forum discussing the murders and questioning the group with almost identical questions he used to conduct criminal behavioral research at Desales university.

The night of the killing shows a switch in his behavior. Despite going into the area at least a dozen times in the 10 to 2am timeframe, when he left his house this time he switched off his phone. It was also much later at night. This can only be interpreted as he had gone from plotting to doing. He was escalating his behavior. He can also be seen circling the area including catching the attention of a gas station attendant who saw him make a high speed turn. Imo he was behaving like someone amping himself up for his first kill. The rest happened how it happened. Hie hit the front door and didn’t stop until he had murdered 4 people.
Posted by Hangit
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:06 pm to
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I never claimed to have inside information.


Perhaps you got a message from Minou? I wish the next evidence dump was the forensics on his phone and computer.
Posted by Hangit
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:16 pm to
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The night of the killing shows a switch in his behavior.


Afterwards too. I read an article today, interviewing some of his classmates from his doctorate program. They said he was always talking, wanting to be the authority, and had huge opinions. After the murders, they discussed them, and he just sat there quietly and listened. It was a total 180.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:24 pm to
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That's how they determined it wasn't an active threat just out there committing random murders when he has the open window of opportunity.


Yes, but how did they determine the killer didn't have other targets? Just because the scene was awful and seemed like the person meant what they were doing didn't mean the killer couldn't have other coeds right around the corner in his lineup.

What made the police so sure it was targeted and there was "no active threat?"

Being in my early 20's during the DTL fiasco has me thinking from a more personal angle. If the police had said there was "no active threat" I would have put my guard down and realized they knew who it was and they had sights on him.

Instead, women were given all sorts of advice on staying safe. I'm just picking it up as odd wording, but maybe I'm looking too much into it.

I would assume that any brutal stabbing murder would be intentional (aka "targeted"), so why jump so fast on the "no active threat" part. It's like they knew from the very beginning.
Posted by TheChosenOne
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:41 pm to
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What made the police so sure it was targeted and there was "no active threat?"


I think you're misinterpreting "active threat." The murders occured eight hours before they got to the scene and even longer before they addressed the public. At that time, there was "no active threat" by definition--a dynamic and evolving situation creating immediate danger to others. If he was a crazed person going on a rampage, he would have attacked someone else in those 8-10 hours.
This post was edited on 1/9/23 at 8:43 pm
Posted by LSUGrrrl
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:49 pm to
First chance to check in. Anything new today worth ready back 10 pages?
Posted by GatorPA84
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:50 pm to
He about to get the choice of shite on my dick or blood on my knife.
Posted by NATidefan
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:51 pm to
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. Anything new today worth ready back 10 pages?


No
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:51 pm to
No mainly just people blaming Dylan and speculating it was a drug house.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:55 pm to
That makes complete sense. Still, the brutal nature of this crime leads me to believe the killer would strike again unless there was a very specific motive. Murderers (brutal) usually aren't of the "one and done" mindset.

I'm talking myself in circles lol. Again, what the police release to the public - or what comes to light during the trial - will be very interesting.
This post was edited on 1/9/23 at 9:00 pm
Posted by LSUGrrrl
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:56 pm to
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No mainly just people blaming Dylan and speculating it was a drug house.


Ah. So same conversation as the last 2 days.

Thanks
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