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re: Idaho Murders Thread (Links inside)
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:28 pm to fwtex
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:28 pm to fwtex
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Its almost guaranteed that the defense will focus heavily on the information DK provided police.
I think we have to say (for like the 40th time): the information in the affidavit isn’t the entire case they’ve built. It’s a portion being utilized to prove probably cause to obtain an arrest warrant. There is far more information and evidence than what is presented, and it’s very likely this will be an extremely minor part of the prosecution’s case.
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:29 pm to fwtex
Not only did she wait 8 hours. She called friends over to the house first waitef til the friends got there then called police.
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:35 pm to fwtex
quote:to say the man in black had bushy eyebrows...
Almost as puzzling as waiting 8 hrs to call police is the investigators putting this information that DK witnessed the killer in the house. For what purpose does this piece of information add to the arrest warrant.
This post was edited on 1/8/23 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:48 pm to fwtex
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Its almost guaranteed that the defense will focus heavily on the information DK provided police. Was she drunk? if so then how could she be certain what she saw? She said she was in fear, why did she wait 8 hrs. to call police? If she says she passed out then again, how is her witness testimony reliable? Will she have to recant her statement to the police? What will that do to the rest of the investigation reliability?
And the prosecution can just say, “okay she was drunk, you can ignore everything she said. Did she steal BK’s knife, car, and cell phone? Otherwise it’s irrelevant to the facts of the case”
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:50 pm to Chicken
What I’m having a hard time digesting is the remark that “she stood in frozen shock phase,” which would seem to indicate that she had heightened suspicion that Eyebrows, to some degree or another, posed a threat. “Frozen shock phase” is very much not a normal reaction one would think. Yet no type of action in response that one might expect for all that time.
This post was edited on 1/8/23 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:51 pm to TrueTigerTale
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I still believe he left the sheath intentionally to let the police, girls and their boyfriends know, this couple was targeted, he would have gotten satisfaction in them knowing.
Do you also believe he intentionally left his dna on it? If that’s the case, why not just kill them out at the bar in public? That way everyone definitely knows he did it?
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:51 pm to Chicken
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to say the man in black had bushy eyebrows..
I think the busy eyebrows description helped get the initial warrant for his phone. The police officer who ran the plate on BK’s car and pulled up his driver’s license noticed that he matched the description, so they looked further into his history with law enforcement run ins and saw that he provided his cell phone number to LE during one of his encounters.
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:00 pm to Chicken
Have the details of the following morning been confirmed? I’m referring to the rumor that Dylan and the other roommate tried Ed entering the rooms, but the doors were locked, so they called some friends and climbed a ladder to look into the rooms before calling 911.
That just doesn’t add up to me. If Bryan locked the doors on the way out, that means he more than likely touched the doors/door handles with his hands and there would have been blood visible.
Even if not, there is a picture with blood literally seeping out the side of the house presumably from the second floor bedroom. I assume they did not have a ladder tall enough to reach the third floor, so they would have been looking in that side of the house. I find it incredibly hard to believe that there were not obvious signs that something horrible happened in that house.
That just doesn’t add up to me. If Bryan locked the doors on the way out, that means he more than likely touched the doors/door handles with his hands and there would have been blood visible.
Even if not, there is a picture with blood literally seeping out the side of the house presumably from the second floor bedroom. I assume they did not have a ladder tall enough to reach the third floor, so they would have been looking in that side of the house. I find it incredibly hard to believe that there were not obvious signs that something horrible happened in that house.
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:07 pm to UpToPar
Well until more info comes out all we know is the police, who did an amazing job, cleared them. Everyone is reading too much into it.
Doesn't make sense anyway. If Dylan had something to hide, she would have never admitted to laying eyes on him. Would have been much easier to say she was in her room and heard nothing.
Doesn't make sense anyway. If Dylan had something to hide, she would have never admitted to laying eyes on him. Would have been much easier to say she was in her room and heard nothing.
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:09 pm to davyjones
It’s wild how many people think they would have reacted perfectly to being woken up at 4am. She seems to have called people first thing in the morning. I don’t really see the big deal and why people can’t get over that
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:13 pm to idlewatcher
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At the very least it’s cowardice.
There’s a fine line between cowardice and being in a severe state of shock.
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:16 pm to HYDRebs
She stated that she was frightened enough to lock her door. I understand why she didn’t call 911, but why didn’t she check on her roommates? A simple text, hey you okay?
I’m not victim blaming, but her actions are 100% questionable. I can’t imagine how hard it would be to know you slept through the butchering of 4 of your friends. Even worse is you were wide awake, yelled for them to be quiet, and then just locked your door and just went to sleep.
I’m not victim blaming, but her actions are 100% questionable. I can’t imagine how hard it would be to know you slept through the butchering of 4 of your friends. Even worse is you were wide awake, yelled for them to be quiet, and then just locked your door and just went to sleep.
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:16 pm to Saintsisit
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Everyone is reading too much into it.
Not really, most are just very curious. It seems strange.
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If Dylan had something to hide, she would have never admitted to laying eyes on him. Would have been much easier to say she was in her room and heard nothing.
I don't think she has anything to hide.
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:23 pm to fwtex
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For what purpose does this piece of information add to the arrest warrant. Seeing bushy eyebrows is not useful identifying information that sealed the arrest warrant so why add it. Adding this information brings duress to DK and it also gives the defense an opening to challenge the arrest and investigation.
It established the timeline of the murders happening from 4 to 4:25 am. Then they match that up with his car being in the area and cell phone records.
They used her for the affidavit, but I would expect the prosecution minimizes her role at trial, particularly as they gather more evidence.
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:34 pm to LSUintheNW
Naw, I don’t think she has anything to hide, and yes there will eventually be further details that may help to fill in the blanks, that’s a guarantee actually. The government doesn’t want to give the entire theory of the case up for public speculation and extended evaluation by defense counsel either. What’s likely dogging the poor young lady most is that she probably feels like she could have made a difference in the outcome had she acted. But as we all would probably agree, there’s nothing she could have done to actually save any lives, and in fact may have lost her own.
A couple of other factors to keep in mind are that she may have been a bit woozy from drinks, smoke or whatever. Not judging at all either, so no need for any attention to that angle. But point being, she possibly wasn’t as acutely aware as she might be at other times.
The other more vague thought to consider is that perhaps she was indeed convinced to some degree that a bad event had occurred but was in a state of disbelief and denial, and sorta “locked up” for a while. Maybe too scared to face what might be in the other room.
All speculation, and fairly so I believe, it’s a rather profound situation and many people for their sense of security are seeking more detail to apply in their own lives or kids lives, particularly college students away at school.
A couple of other factors to keep in mind are that she may have been a bit woozy from drinks, smoke or whatever. Not judging at all either, so no need for any attention to that angle. But point being, she possibly wasn’t as acutely aware as she might be at other times.
The other more vague thought to consider is that perhaps she was indeed convinced to some degree that a bad event had occurred but was in a state of disbelief and denial, and sorta “locked up” for a while. Maybe too scared to face what might be in the other room.
All speculation, and fairly so I believe, it’s a rather profound situation and many people for their sense of security are seeking more detail to apply in their own lives or kids lives, particularly college students away at school.
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:37 pm to Sherman Klump
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Do you also believe he intentionally left his dna on it? If that’s the case, why not just kill them out at the bar in public? That way everyone definitely knows he did it?
He left the sheath by the girl and her boyfriend. According to his teachers he had been constantly bullied by girls and their boyfriends. And the multiple stabbings appears definitely out of anger toward such couples. He didn’t realize DNA from days or weeks ago was on the sheath.
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:40 pm to WinnaSez
We don't know that she didn't try to text them. She very well could have and when they didn't respond she may have assumed they were asleep at that point.
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:41 pm to VolunGator
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Brian K’s college teacher told the media that he was brilliant..
She also said she'd never met him in person and knew nothing about his personal life.
She'd read things he wrote and she'd facetimed him, but NEVER was in the same room with him much less had an unelectronic conversation with him.
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:41 pm to TrueTigerTale
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He left the sheath by the girl and her boyfriend
You got it figured out huh?
Actually he left it upstairs next to Madison.
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:42 pm to TrueTigerTale
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He left the sheath by the girl and her boyfriend.
no, he didn't...the sheath was found near the 2 girls on the 3rd floor...
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