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Posted on 1/6/23 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 1/6/23 at 12:18 pm to
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That's a Hot take, Carl.


Nice pun. But it’s much more of “long” take than a “hot” one.
Posted by NATidefan
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Posted on 1/6/23 at 12:21 pm to
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The timing of the door dash is interesting. I wonder if during his stakeouts, he realized someone ordered door dash a lot around that time of night and thought that if he did the killing immediately after the delivery, cops would try and pin it on the delivery driver. The time between the delivery and the murders is strangely close.


Eh, maybe, but he was driving around past the house several times and in and out of their little street neighborhood.

I think he was waiting for the bedroom lights to go out. He may or may not have ever seen the door dash. My guess is he didn't see it.

At least I would have aborted or waited longer if I thought they were still up.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
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Posted on 1/6/23 at 12:21 pm to
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That's just a rumor though


This is important. Along with the alleged lack of footprints, the timeframe has bothered me. It takes a while to stab 4 people to death and it’s exhausting. If he stabbed one person 54 times, the assumption he stabbed all of them multiple times. Sounds like a frenzy but people also rarely die of a single puncture wound unless they are hit in a critical area.

Video footage narrows the time inside the house down to what? 12-15 minutes? That’s just not a lot of time.
Posted by BeYou
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Posted on 1/6/23 at 12:22 pm to
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I'm sure you guys will downvote me for this, but I don't believe its 100% a Ka-Bar knife that was used. Just as you said, that style and rough size. I have knives in improper sheaths, is all I'm alluding to.

If this guy had half a brain, someone might consider leaving BS evidence to throw the police off like the wrong sheath. But we can likely agree he's just a dumbass and he probably bought it with a CC a month ago online and shipped it to his house.


Posted by csorre1
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Posted on 1/6/23 at 12:24 pm to
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baldona, no more posting in here until after you have read the affidavit.


Thank God
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 1/6/23 at 12:26 pm to
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I agree with a lot of this regarding the misinformation . Imo They were on him pretty quickly but you gotta realIze there were 20k tips so just going Thru that and narrowing down a list of possible perps would take a while.


Oh, no doubt. I didn’t mean they were on to him specifically, just that they had a good idea the kind of person they were looking for early on (mainly someone not directly related to the victims) and were talking to the murderer with the misinformation hoping he’d frick up, not Bryan specifically.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
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Posted on 1/6/23 at 12:26 pm to
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That's risky though - the murder weapon is a massive smoking gun. You don't want to hold on to it for more than a month.


I agree with this point. I think for the sake of argument I should clarify that he could have disposed of any number of pieces of evidence along the 1700 mile journey home not just the knife. Time and distance give him ample opportunity.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
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Posted on 1/6/23 at 12:30 pm to
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If this guy had half a brain, someone might consider leaving BS evidence to throw the police off like the wrong sheath.


Why would someone plant false evidence that contains their own DNA?
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/6/23 at 12:30 pm to
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If this guy had half a brain, someone might consider leaving BS evidence to throw the police off like the wrong sheath.


I hope for your sake it's trolling at this point. BS evidence? It has his DNA on it. You think they can tell from the cuts if it was a Ka-Bar or not? What difference does it make. They were stabbed and found his DNA. Jeez.
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 1/6/23 at 12:32 pm to
Has his phone pinging in Johnson, ID the day of the murders been discussed?
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 1/6/23 at 12:34 pm to
That's the genius of it. According to Baldona.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 1/6/23 at 12:34 pm to
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Except when they announced they were looking for a Ka-Bar style knife about 3 days after the murders.


I bet he was hoping they deduced that due to the wounds, not because of the sheath. Or even if he did realize he’d left it at the scene, he probably didn’t think they’d be able to get his touch DNA off of it from a prior time he unsnapped it without gloves.

Or he may have known he was fricked right then and it was just a matter of time. I was just saying that after yesterday, there is no way he’s actually confident of his exoneration.
Posted by UpToPar
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Posted on 1/6/23 at 12:34 pm to
I'm sure they have a lot more evidence than what was included in the affidavit, but others have been acquitted with more evidence against them than this.

There is no witness positively ID'ing him at the scene. They don't have the murder weapon. They cannot say with 100% certainty that it was his white elantra seen on the ring camera footage.

There may be unlikely but plausible explanations for the knife sheath and cell phone data. He would be smart to claim that he either accidentally left the knife at the house prior to the killings or that his knife was recently stolen. I'm not sure how exact the cell phone location information is, but it would not be unreasonable for him to be in the same general area. He would possibly need someone to cover for him. A "Zanny the Nanny" if you will.

But, again, I'm sure there will be more evidence released in the coming months.
This post was edited on 1/6/23 at 12:35 pm
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 1/6/23 at 12:36 pm to
All right, that's enough… Please take a break
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/6/23 at 12:36 pm to
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They had to know this dude was the guy based on all the evidence so why let him destroy more evidence by cleaning the car?

I guess they figured they had enough already. I don't really get why it took so long to arrest him. Like why get DNA from the parent's house and not his before he left?

Either way, doesn't matter. Dude's fricked.


I don’t think he was the sole focus until after he was already in Pennsylvania. WSU campus police reported the car, license plates (PA one from campus registration & new plate noticed on car on 29th), and dl info on Nov 29th, but affidavit doesn’t state when local team received or reviewed reports, looked at DL pic, when they officially thought pics of car that night could also include 2014-2016 year models of car, or got the WSU campus and Pullman video of car early AM on day of murders from police over there. It says most of that stuff was done before asking for the search warrant to get his phone data on December 23rd but vague on exactly when.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 1/6/23 at 12:37 pm to
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Has his phone pinging in Johnson, ID the day of the murders been discussed?


I watched a video that used google earth to track the path the killer took day of the murders by plotting camera footage sites and cell phone pings. Johnson, ID didn’t stand out to me enough to remember that specific point. Is it significant for a specific reason?
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46336 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 12:39 pm to
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There may be unlikely but plausible explanations for the knife sheath and cell phone data. He would be smart to claim that he either accidentally left the knife at the house prior to the killings or that his knife was recently stolen. I'm not sure how exact the cell phone location information is, but it would not be unreasonable for him to be in the same general area.


I guess but it would be hard to explain the security cam footage of his vehicle driving past the residence several times just prior to the murder then pulling in to park at the time of the murder and leaving immediately after the roommate witness said the killer left the scene.
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 1/6/23 at 12:40 pm to
It's off the beaten path. And he turned his phone off for hours when he was in that area.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/6/23 at 12:40 pm to
Thank god.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
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Posted on 1/6/23 at 12:41 pm to
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That nose is pretty distinguishable.


And the bushy eyebrows as described by one of the surviving roommates who saw him leave.
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