re: Idaho Murders Thread (Links inside)

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I guess but it would be hard to explain the security cam footage of his vehicle driving past the residence several times just prior to the murder then pulling in to park at the time of the murder and leaving immediately after the roommate witness said the killer left the scene.

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The security cam footage just picks up a white elantra. From what we know so far, they were not able to get a license plate. His defense attorney's job is to sow doubt in the jurors' minds. There are probably thousands of white elantra's within a 30 miles radius of the killing.

This is made a bit more difficult because the white elantra on video did not have a front plate, but again, that's not a smoking gun.

I expect they will find the victim's DNA and blood in his car and that will be the final nail in his coffin.

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That's the genius of it. According to Baldona.

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Maybe at trial he'll stand up and say, "Y'all thought it was a Ka-Bar but really it was a Ranger. Haha jokes on yall suckas."

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That's the genius of it. According to Baldona.

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Baldona needs to invest the time in reading the full affidavit and also watching the video plotting the camera footage and phone pings that Hot Carl posted pages back.

It’s tedious watching because, as he reads each point in the affidavit, he pulls up google earth to add the point of footage/pings but I just fast forwarded through his bumbling until he found the correct location each time and added the marker then picked up from there.

I strongly prefer narrations that are time efficient and straight to the point, though, so it was probably especially irritating to me thus the FF strategy while watching. The end picture, though, is pretty complete and very damming.

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All right, that's enough… Please take a break

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I'll honor this. Won't post again in this thread.

Can you tell me what I said was so wrong? I don't understand how suggesting just because it was a Ka-Bar sheath doesn't make it 100% a Ka-Bar knife that was used. I would certainly hope the police aren't only looking for that specific knife.

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The security cam footage just picks up a white elantra. From what we know so far, they were not able to get a license plate. His defense attorney's job is to sow doubt in the jurors' minds. There are probably thousands of white elantra's within a 30 miles radius of the killing.

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Yes, but matched with camera footage of his vehicle leaving his campus, camera footage of that Elantra matching pings on the route leading to the Moscow (although cutting out when he turned up his phone) with more camera footage of an Elantra continuing the route without pings to the murder location. Then, the same footage leading the same way back, pings picking up again when he turned his phone back on exactly matching where footage is still tracking the Elantra and both pings and footage showing the Elantra arriving back on his campus at the same time.

Incredibly damning.

“Wouldn’t they just have to pose as the normal garage pickup”

I suppose so but the fact they had video of him putting garbage in neighbor’ s trash cans at 4:00 AM has me thinking they had eyes on the house 24 hours a day.Just seems like it would be hard to pull off 24 hr /day surveillance for several days from the pictures I saw of the neighborhood.

As I said,not really pertinent to the investigation.I was just impressed with the sleuthing they pulled off.

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Yes, but matched with camera footage of his vehicle leaving his campus, camera footage of that Elantra matching pings on the route leading to the Moscow (although cutting out when he turned up his phone) with more camera footage of an Elantra continuing the route without pings to the murder location. Then, the same footage leading the same way back, pings picking up again when he turned his phone back on exactly matching where footage is still tracking the Elantra and both pings and footage showing the Elantra arriving back on his campus at the same time.

Incredibly damning.

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I agree that it's incredibly damning, but it's still circumstantial. Like I said, I think the thing that will ultimately put him away is when they find blood in his car. It doesn't matter how thoroughly he thinks he cleaned it, there will be blood in there. If not, then the defense has another arrow in their quiver to sow reasonable doubt.

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I agree that it's incredibly damning, but it's still circumstantial. Like I said, I think the thing that will ultimately put him away is when they find blood in his car.

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The circumstantial evidence alone should be enough for a jury to convict even without any blood in his car

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The circumstantial evidence alone should be enough for a jury to convict even without any blood in his car

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If they don't find blood in his car, I think a conviction becomes much more difficult. That gives the defense pretty good ammunition. They can roll "expert" after "expert" up on the stand to talk about how much blood would be expected after stabbing four people to death and how it is almost statistically impossible for there to be no trace of blood in his vehicle.