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re: ICE rounds up New Orleans construction workers today

Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:01 am to
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14018 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:01 am to
I know nothing about this specific group, but am constantly amazed that people don't realize there is a path to get an employment authorization document (work permit) to work legally inside the US with a valid Social Security number while still being illegal. Example: someone entered the US illegally, files for asylum, waits 180 days of the application pending, and then they get a work permit and social. This is way more common these days then someone completely working on these job sites with nothing. Also makes the "fine the employer" line dumb without more info because they very well could have all their I-9 docs in order and hire people with only valid employment authorization but ICE can still roundup the workers.
Posted by profdillweed
Gulf of America
Member since Apr 2025
2190 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:04 am to
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Looks like Twin Shores Landscaping lost some amigos today.




How much you wanna bet it was a competitor that ratted them out
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:24 am to
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Ok, ok. Let’s bring Mexicans here to pick berries


Why are you replying to me? I don't want them here unless they are legal and can prove they provide a service that we can't provide ourselves.

You know, like every other country on the planet.


The argument people make that they do jobs we won't is ludicrous. They do jobs we don't like for slave wages, that's the bottom line. This is as true for illegals as it often is for H1-B white collar workers and legal H2-A farm workers.
Posted by profdillweed
Gulf of America
Member since Apr 2025
2190 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:30 am to
If they really wanted to round up illegals all they have to do is go to every house thats being raised and they will run out jail space
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14018 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:31 am to
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They do jobs we don't like for slave wages, that's the bottom line. This is as true for illegals as it often is for H1-B white collar workers and legal H2-A farm workers.


The lowest MINIMUM wage for H2-A in the 50 states is $14.83 (Louisiana and Mississippi) and gets as high as $20.08 (Hawaii). That is hardly "slave wages."
Posted by SneezyBeltranIsHere
Member since Jul 2021
4299 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:46 am to
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The argument people make that they do jobs we won't is ludicrous


It isn't ludicrous. And I am not talking about just the 100K unfilled agricultural jobs open in the US right now. There are about 500K unfilled manufacturing jobs in the US at this very moment. No Americans want them. As a society (especially if you value American manufacturing) are are all better off having immgrants come in to do these jobs than for these American companies to fail and more manufacturing to be based overseas.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48772 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:12 am to
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they very well could have all their I-9 docs in order and hire people with only valid employment authorization but ICE can still roundup the workers.
don’t confuse them they’re busy building the wall in their brains
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 11:44 am to
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If they really wanted to round up illegals all they have to do is go to every house thats being raised and they will run out jail space


I am not concerned about jail capacity in Guatemala, Mexico, Honduras, etc... send them home.

Fine the ever loving frick out of the hiring contractor or company.

Then, if they want to come back, require them to do it legally. Hey, I have a talent that no one else has. This company endorses me. I'll pay taxes. I'll learn the language. I'll follow the laws.

I don't disagree that a good amount of folks deserve to be here, but if they came illegallly, I am sorry... I can't be swayed.

Posted by tigerbait17
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
1460 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 11:51 am to
The real loser is the customer who hired the construction crew. Their project isn't getting finished anytime soon.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48772 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 11:55 am to
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a good amount of folks deserve to be here, but if they came illegallly, I am sorry
there are tens of millions of people here legally who don’t deserve to be here. I’ll get on board with mass deportation as soon as we also implement mass denaturalization
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 12:01 pm to
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It isn't ludicrous.


It is ludicrous. The fact you rationalize illegals is insane.

People did these types of jobs before, whether they were native born or legal immigrants.

I am from a farming town. My dad still farms. I've observed this behavior in row crops, vegetables, pecans, pine trees, everywhere.
I also have 30 years in manufacturing from packaging to consumer products. I have seen plant evolutions and also offshoring.

You'd honestly rather import labor than incentivize or require Americans to work? We have legions of lazy do-nuffins that do exactly that because they CAN. If you take away their benefits, then you better believe they'll be back working in abattoirs and tomato fields.

If you punish companies that are knowingly hiring illegals to undercut local hiring, then maybe they'll do a better job. Nobody seems to ever get punished when there are worksite busts. I worked for one of these places, FYI. I quit due to their shady behavior, and the GBI came-a-calling wanting information. They KNOWINGLY hire people they know aren't legal, and hold it over their heads as a threat, including holding passports and paperwork. This is why I would blame the hiring party as much as the worker.

You say "no Americans WANT these jobs." That's a backwards way of approaching this issue, sorry. Well, let's import slaves to do those jobs since our lower class people prefer to live on welfare and not take those jobs. What's the worst that could happen?

What could happen? You've got 500,000 non-English speakers that may slice your chicken meat, but they also fill up schools, kill towns, increase crime rates, bring in exotic diseases, takeover your ERs, abuse every social program... and are far more of a drain than just kicking the fricking welfare bums in the arse to make them work. Maybe you can't get the adults to do it, but you damn well can work on all these retards in high schools that are about to enter the "workforce."

But to just allow companies to hire slave labor because it's convenient isn't a good enough argument for me.

Have you ever lived or worked abroad? You can't just decide to move to Australia. There's a process. Why are we different?
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 12:03 pm to
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there are tens of millions of people here legally who don’t deserve to be here. I’ll get on board with mass deportation as soon as we also implement mass denaturalization


I won't argue that on merit, but deportations have to come first.

criminals
illegal-border hoppers
illegal visa-overstayers
enemies of the state

Give them all a brochure on how to re-apply.
Posted by baytiger11
Member since Jul 2020
2484 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 12:08 pm to
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there are tens of millions of people here legally who don’t deserve to be here. I’ll get on board with mass deportation as soon as we also implement mass denaturalization
100%
Way too many useless people in this country that were born into legal citizenship
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22039 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 12:09 pm to
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It costs a bajillion dollars to deport illegals. They are exactly the type of people who are willing to uproot their lives in order to seek out a better one. Make them unhireable here and they'll uproot again. It's not that hard.


They had an offer to deport on their own and then return to work with a letter from the employer. They chose not to and now they will not be allowed back.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10553 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 12:48 pm to
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there are tens of millions of people here legally who don’t deserve to be here. I’ll get on board with mass deportation as soon as we also implement mass denaturalization

Are you including citizens born here?

Regardless until you get all of what you want you will just accept 20,000,000 in the country who are either here illegally or are the legals that you don’t think deserve to be here.

That is some special logic…
Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
6456 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 1:10 pm to
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quote: Ok, ok. Let’s bring Mexicans here to pick berries


Why are you replying to me


You were the last post at the time. Relax.
This post was edited on 5/28/25 at 1:12 pm
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48772 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 1:45 pm to
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Are you including citizens born here?

yes deadbeat citizens who take and do not contribute are an exponentially greater problem than the working illegals
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just accept 20,000,000 in the country who are either here illegally
20 million huh? let me guess, you watch fox news all day in your recliner
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43145 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 1:54 pm to
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They’re working tax free and they’re working for less wages than Americans and legal immigrants can afford.



And they often send their money out of the country.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74213 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 3:48 pm to
You mean like this very ad? Lol
Dumbass.


Posted by bbarras85
Member since Jul 2021
2400 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 4:40 pm to
SEND THEM TO MORGAN CITY PLEASE
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