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re: ICC issues arrest warrant for Netanyahu for war crimes in Gaza first for a U.S. ally

Posted on 11/21/24 at 8:18 am to
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
4585 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 8:18 am to
Must be a great gig .. Being on these international groups - it's like being the ultimate class president - celebrated in your own head, make useless proclamations ...except you also get paid several hundred grand and get to travel the world
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
19125 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 8:23 am to
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he should be executed for allowing 10/7 to happen



Next to North Korea, Isreal is the most paranoid country on the planet and their intelligence capabilities rival that of any Western European country. In the Middle East, they have no peer. This is a country in fact, that actually has moles in Iran.

Israel is flanked by its enemies and the enemy that hates it the most lives in a duplex right next door to them, they share a front porch. The Israeli Intelligence apparatus is so fully woven throughout the entire region that it sees and hears everything, but I'm somehow expected to believe that 10/7 was just some oversight, some incompetent failure. Ok, sure.

Folks around these parts refuse to even consider the possibility the Israeli Government saw this coming, and the very same assholes who refuse to believe Israel could've stopped this are more than willing to believe 9/11 was some sort of CIA operation. .

Every American who uncritically supports Isreal in this shite, needs to consider the possibility he's being suckered into another for profit, Middle Eastern corporate war. A war the United States and Israel have no intention of winning.
This post was edited on 11/21/24 at 8:30 am
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
19125 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 8:28 am to
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he should be executed for allowing 10/7 to happen


Anyone who believes Israeli Intelligence didn't see this coming is a fricking sucker.
Posted by Locoguan0
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 11/21/24 at 8:28 am to
More than 1/4 of the UN member nations are Muslim-majority. The impartiality of the ICC toward Israel is very much in question.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
18539 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 8:29 am to
Trump isn’t gonna let that happen. Trump will back Israel
Posted by eatpie
Kentucky
Member since Aug 2018
1435 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 8:30 am to
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The NeoCons want WWWIII to get under way before Trump gets in and they are doing a great job.


There is discussion that WW3 has been ongoing for several years, slow rot from the inside. Destruction of western countries, values, borders from the inside. The most obvious are the woke ideologies and electing non-western people to the highest levels.

Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
86325 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 8:33 am to
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Anyone who believes Israeli Intelligence didn't see this coming is a fricking sucker.

there's plenty out there.
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
2915 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 8:35 am to
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IIRC did they not issue one for one of the Bushes? Or was that just a summons to appear before them to answer for something?


When they were thinking about it the Congress passed a bill saying we would invade them if the put a warrant out for Americans
Posted by Toroballistic
Tallahassee
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 11/21/24 at 8:46 am to
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their intelligence capabilities rival that of any Western European country.


Terrorists attacks have occurred in these Western European countries. Are you saying that these intelligence agencies knew about all these attacks in advance and then allowed them to happen anyway?

9/11, Madrid bombings, Japanese subway gas attack (Japan is comparable to Western European powers), etc. were all known to intelligence agencies but the agencies let them succeed?

Quite a stretch in my opinion. Sometimes even the best intelligence agencies miss something.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
19125 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 8:48 am to
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their intelligence capabilities rival that of any Western European country.


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Terrorists attacks have occurred in these Western European countries. Are you saying that these intelligence agencies knew about all these attacks in advance and then allowed them to happen anyway?

9/11, Madrid bombings, Japanese subway gas attack (Japan is comparable to Western European powers), etc. were all known to intelligence agencies but the agencies let them succeed?

Quite a stretch in my opinion. Sometimes even the best intelligence agencies miss something.



Quote my entire post. You left out alot of context.
This post was edited on 11/21/24 at 8:50 am
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57793 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 8:49 am to
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and the very same assholes who refuse to believe Israel could've stopped this are more than willing to believe 9/11 was some sort of CIA operation. .
our greatest ally had a hand in 911
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38378 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 8:50 am to
Netanyahu is the israeli John McCain. It's crazy to see america first patriots support him and his regime. frick him.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
62057 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 8:52 am to
The reporting about him seems more honest in Israel than here. You a see a lot of independent media guys reference pieces from Haaretz that are critical of him.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38378 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 8:57 am to
Honestly its probably the biggest stain on trump and the maga movement.


While certainly not everyone is on board, there's a huge contingent of maga that is israel first, and Trump isn't immune to it.

It undercuts and weakens the entire message. If any politician here in the US advocated for what Net wants from us (endless wars and periodic regime changes for nearly every ME country on our dime), they would be rightly blasted as a neocon warhawk. But for someone reason a large part of maga still vehemently supports a man and his admin which lobbies for exactly that every time he comes over here.


ETA: Just look at all the downvotes GLTs first post in this thread got. This board went on for days how fricking amazing IDF/Mossad is when they hit Hamas with the pager/phone attack and then smoked one of the top dudes in Iran. Those same people were caught off guard by 10/7? frick off with that. They bragged about basically compromising Hamas's entire comms network for years and we're supposed to believe 10/7 was missed? Stop.
This post was edited on 11/21/24 at 9:02 am
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
86325 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 9:00 am to
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But for someone reason a large part of maga still vehemently supports a man and his admin which lobbies for exactly that every time he comes over here.
because the idiots they listen to, tell them to. It's pretty simple.
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
2915 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 9:00 am to
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Honestly its probably the biggest stain on trump and the maga movement. While certainly not everyone is on board, there's a huge contingent of maga that is israel first, and Trump isn't immune to it. It undercuts and weakens the entire message. If any politician here in the US advocated for what Net wants from us (endless wars and periodic regime changes for nearly every ME country on our dime), they would be rightly blasted as a neocon warhawk. But for someone reason a large part of maga still vehemently supports a man and his admin which lobbies for exactly that every time he comes over here.



Same here, overwhelmingly US Jews vote democrat. Jew created Hollywood and still run it to this day and the created an entire machine to promote the democrat party. Yet republicans, MAGA, and Trump still worship them despite getting overwhelmingly more vote from Muslims.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
87011 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 9:02 am to
Oh noz the ICC arrest warrant
Posted by Swamp Angel
Somewhere on a river
Member since Jul 2004
8819 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 9:15 am to
The United States needs to issues arrest warrants for members of the ICC as members of a terrorist group sanctioned by, but not under the solitary authority, of nation-states who are not recognized as a singular sovereign entity.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
62057 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 9:17 am to
He passed on Pompeo and Haley for Rubio/Stefanik/Waltz/Hook, which is the same thing (and arguably more pro-Israel).
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