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re: Ian Observation Thread (Storm Track and Radar inside)

Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:07 am to
Posted by lsugolfredman
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:07 am to
The ensembles have been lagging behind the operational run by a couple runs. A reminder that they are run at a lower resolution than the operational ad well.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:12 am to
The other models have done that but not the GFS for some reason.
Posted by LaBR4
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:12 am to
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This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 12:13 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:15 am to
This illustrates the process Duke was talking about and the frames I posted earlier and is what could be the why that makes the GFS do what it does.


You see the Northern jog where it feels the pull North. Then, it immediately goes back South and continues a more Westward track. What could be causing that is convection downstream of the system that overpowers the pull North and forces the center to form more to the SW. The Euro doesn't show this at all, and it is where the two models diverge from each other.

ETA: And as Duke mentioned it is one of the known biases of the GFS.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 12:20 am
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:22 am to
Shouldn't we be regarding these runs rather lightly since there isn’t even a formed storm and center to model?
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:25 am to
Reading these threads when the big guys talk really makes me feel like a fricking retard


I have no clue what y’all are saying I just try to take the overall tone of your posts
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:25 am to
I make my decisions off of Jay Grymes' sleeves

Suit jacket on today so i'm comfortable
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:38 am to
I actually understood that that’s a pretty good explanation.

And to be perfectly honest, the still frames weren’t doing it for me. The gif is what put me over the top.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 12:40 am
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:39 am to
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Shouldn't we be regarding these runs rather lightly since there isn’t even a formed storm and center to model?


I'll put it to you this way, I'm barely paying attention to what the models are doing once it hits the Gulf. They're of dubious value past a couple of days. What matters the most is where it actually forms.

We're still firmly in ensemble mode for potential Gulf Coast landfall.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:49 am to
You watching the GFS ensembles? Lots of members in the central gulf of Mexico at 180hr.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 1:38 am to
If you're wanting to cheerlead for a model, the Euro is the one. Not good at all for Florida though, it would wreck shite.

Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:06 am to


The Euro has two differences. It isn't building through quick bursts like the GFS is. It remains weaker longer. It doesn't feel the push to the south as much due to the weaker nature of the system.

The GFS is getting that taller system pushed further south and doing some pinwheeling with it's vorts as it consolidates into a bonafide tropical system.



The end result is a much different launching point when it feels the turn north. Those differences compound into seeing the Euro have it fully captured and pulled NE and the GFS misses the NE push and gets it stuck moving due north instead.
Posted by Bunta
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:09 am to
Printing the shirts for team Euro, sorry Florida.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 5:57 am
Posted by JCinBAMA
North of Huntsville
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:21 am to
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It isn't as obvious on still frames
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Posted by Run up middle
DeRidder
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:49 am to
New GFS gonna make LC people have a stroke!
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:54 am to
Just where I want to be this far out!
Posted by Run up middle
DeRidder
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:56 am to
I believe this is the 3rd or 4th time the GFS has had LC hit with a major this year.
Posted by maisweh
Member since Jan 2014
4222 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:03 am to
Gfs has swung it from Florida to LC in a day. Euro says frick you Florida

I'm on team whatever isn't southeast la
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
40866 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:05 am to
Dry air from Santa will save LA. Get ready Florida Man.
Posted by Bunta
Member since Oct 2007
12522 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:06 am to
GFS can eat a bag of dicks
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