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re: Ian Observation Thread (Storm Track and Radar inside)

Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:51 pm to
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
24362 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:51 pm to
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I’m thinking we will see a shift in the next couple days


Anything is possible but usually within 3 days the models are locked in. I hope for toof's sake they do move though. It's about as bad a scenario as possible for Tampa.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
39249 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:52 pm to
400 miles from side to side? How many miles across was Katrina??
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
38753 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

Fed Nat Insurance went bankrupt today


there’s a surcharge (FIGA) tacked on to homeowners to cover claims from companies that have gone into receivership

Hope none here end up having to deal with all of that

Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

I’m thinking we will see a shift in the next couple days


There wont be much of one.

The good news is it wouldnt take a huge move to save Tampa a huge headache.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42039 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:53 pm to
Just from viewing Cat 4 Surge Maps, Tampa will have some issues from a logistical manner as the AFB and Intl Airport in a worse case scenario would take on significant water.

Raymond James depending on the dmg would have to be used as a Base of Operation.

I didnt realize Tampa was as bad as New Orleans when it comes to surge / elevation.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:54 pm to
I hope all my colleagues are going to take this seriously. It's hard to explain to a my team at work why I know more than they do and they shouldn't take things lightly. shite I'm from the state of Landmass... It is hard convincing them that I have indoor plumbing.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
100155 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:57 pm to
NOLA today is in much better shape ..whole area can but shut down
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7872 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:57 pm to
quote:

didnt realize Tampa was as bad as New Orleans when it comes to surge / elevation


It’s not as bad a New Orleans. Storm surge will drain in Tampa vs NOLA sat in flood waters for weeks
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:58 pm to
Atlanta is like some metastasized tumor on that night map
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
48789 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:59 pm to
10pm CDT advisory coming out now. Winds up to 105mph, pressure down to 962mb.

BULLETIN
Hurricane Ian Advisory Number 16
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL092022
1100 PM EDT Mon Sep 26 2022

...IAN EXPECTED TO BECOME A MAJOR HURRICANE OVERNIGHT OR EARLY
TUESDAY...
...SIGNIFICANT WIND AND STORM SURGE IMPACTS WILL BEGIN
IN WESTERN CUBA VERY SOON...


SUMMARY OF 1100 PM EDT...0300 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...21.3N 83.4W
ABOUT 105 MI...170 KM ESE OF THE WESTERN TIP OF CUBA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...105 MPH...165 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NNW OR 340 DEGREES AT 13 MPH...20 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...962 MB...28.41 INCHES
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
14077 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:00 pm to
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MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...962 MB


yupppppp.

Posted by bikerack
NH
Member since Sep 2011
2351 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:02 pm to
New NHC discussion says the new cone will be shifted slightly east and it is slowing down.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
100155 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:02 pm to
quote:

didnt realize Tampa was as bad as New Orleans when it comes to surge / elevation It’s not as bad a New Orleans. Storm surge will drain in Tampa vs NOLA sat in flood waters for weeks



No
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:03 pm to
Not a bad call eh?

I also thought it would be a major by now.

Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
42832 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:03 pm to
Has it as a strong Cat 2 just west of Tampa this advisory
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
48789 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:04 pm to


Hurricane Ian Discussion Number 16
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL092022
1100 PM EDT Mon Sep 26 2022

Ian continues to become better organized on satellite images with
intense deep convection in its Central Dense Overcast and numerous
surrounding banding features. The overall cloud pattern is quite
symmetric with well-defined upper-level outflow. Observations from
both Air Force and NOAA Hurricane Hunter aircraft indicate that the
central pressure is falling, and the intensity is increased to 90
kt based on a recently reported 700 mb flight-level wind of 101 kt
from the Air Force plane. This is also in agreement with a
subjective Dvorak satellite estimate from SAB.

Aside from its relatively brief time passing over western Cuba, Ian
will be moving over waters of very high oceanic heat content during
the next couple of days. The various Rapid Intensification (RI)
indices show a significant probability of RI and this is reflected
in the short-term official intensity forecast. However, the SHIPS
guidance, which is based on global model predictions, indicates that
a significant increase in southwesterly shear and a substantially
drying of low- to mid-level air will begin in 24-36 hours. The NHC
forecast, like the previous one, shows strengthening to Category 4
intensity in a day or so, followed by gradual weakening. However,
Ian is still expected to be a major hurricane when it reaches the
Florida west coast.
The official intensity forecast is near or
above the latest simple and corrected multi-model consensus
predictions.

Ian continues its north-northwestward trek at about 340/11 kt. The
hurricane is expected to move north-northwestward to northward
over the southeastern Gulf of Mexico during the next day or so,
along the western periphery of a subtropical ridge. After around
36 hours, the track forecast becomes more uncertain, since there is
considerable divergence of the track models in the 2-3 day
time frame. The guidance also shows considerable slowing of the
forward speed, due to a weakening of the steering currents, when
Ian approaches the west coast of Florida. This slower forward
motion is likely to prolong the storm surge, wind, and rainfall
impacts, especially along the west coast of Florida. The official
track forecast is adjusted just slightly east of the previous NHC
prediction based on the latest multi-model consensus aid, TVCN.


Key Messages:

1. Life-threatening storm surge, hurricane-force winds, flash floods
and possible mudslides are expected in portions of western Cuba
beginning overnight and continuing into Tuesday. Devastating wind
damage is possible where the core of Ian moves across western Cuba.
Efforts to protect life and property should be rushed to completion.

2. There is a danger of life-threatening storm surge along much
of the Florida west coast where a storm surge warning has been
issued, with the highest risk from Fort Myers to the Tampa Bay
region. Residents in these areas should listen to advice given by
local officials.

3. Hurricane-force winds are expected in the hurricane warning area
in west-central Florida beginning Wednesday morning with tropical
storm conditions expected by late Tuesday.

4. Heavy rainfall will spread across western Cuba through Tuesday.
This will likely produce instances of flash flooding and possible
mudslides in areas of higher terrain over western Cuba.

5. Heavy rainfall will increase across the Florida Keys and South
Florida Tuesday, spreading into central and northern Florida
Wednesday and Thursday and the Southeast by Friday and Saturday,
potentially causing flash, urban and small stream flooding.
Considerable flooding, including significant, prolonged river
flooding, is likely across Central Florida.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 27/0300Z 21.3N 83.4W 90 KT 105 MPH
12H 27/1200Z 22.8N 83.7W 105 KT 120 MPH
24H 28/0000Z 24.5N 83.7W 120 KT 140 MPH
36H 28/1200Z 26.1N 83.5W 115 KT 130 MPH
48H 29/0000Z 27.2N 83.1W 105 KT 120 MPH
60H 29/1200Z 27.9N 82.7W 95 KT 110 MPH...INLAND
72H 30/0000Z 28.6N 82.4W 65 KT 75 MPH...INLAND
96H 01/0000Z 31.3N 82.2W 30 KT 35 MPH...INLAND
120H 02/0000Z 35.0N 81.5W 25 KT 30 MPH...INLAND

$$
Forecaster Pasch
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 10:09 pm
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
21231 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:05 pm to
I am praying for all Florida baws and their families.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
48789 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:06 pm to
Highly encourage reading the NHC forecast discussion that I posted just above this post.
Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
6519 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:07 pm to
Looks to have moved slightly south. Would suck for Ft Meyers but a landfall south of Tampa between the two would be less devastating to the area.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66607 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

It’s not as bad a New Orleans. Storm surge will drain in Tampa vs NOLA sat in flood waters for weeks

It is worse than New Orleans. Every study on surge vulnerability has come to the same conclusion. Tampa just hasn't had to deal with it in modern times.
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 10:10 pm
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