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re: Ian Observation Thread (Storm Track and Radar inside)
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:51 pm to tgrbaitn08
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:51 pm to tgrbaitn08
quote:
I’m thinking we will see a shift in the next couple days
Anything is possible but usually within 3 days the models are locked in. I hope for toof's sake they do move though. It's about as bad a scenario as possible for Tampa.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:52 pm to Rhino5
400 miles from side to side? How many miles across was Katrina??
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:52 pm to Legion of Doom
quote:
Fed Nat Insurance went bankrupt today
there’s a surcharge (FIGA) tacked on to homeowners to cover claims from companies that have gone into receivership
Hope none here end up having to deal with all of that
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:53 pm to tgrbaitn08
quote:
I’m thinking we will see a shift in the next couple days
There wont be much of one.
The good news is it wouldnt take a huge move to save Tampa a huge headache.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:53 pm to TchoupitoulasTiger
Just from viewing Cat 4 Surge Maps, Tampa will have some issues from a logistical manner as the AFB and Intl Airport in a worse case scenario would take on significant water.
Raymond James depending on the dmg would have to be used as a Base of Operation.
I didnt realize Tampa was as bad as New Orleans when it comes to surge / elevation.
Raymond James depending on the dmg would have to be used as a Base of Operation.
I didnt realize Tampa was as bad as New Orleans when it comes to surge / elevation.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:54 pm to Tyga Woods
I hope all my colleagues are going to take this seriously. It's hard to explain to a my team at work why I know more than they do and they shouldn't take things lightly. shite I'm from the state of Landmass... It is hard convincing them that I have indoor plumbing.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:57 pm to 50_Tiger
NOLA today is in much better shape ..whole area can but shut down
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:57 pm to 50_Tiger
quote:
didnt realize Tampa was as bad as New Orleans when it comes to surge / elevation
It’s not as bad a New Orleans. Storm surge will drain in Tampa vs NOLA sat in flood waters for weeks
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:58 pm to NorthEndZone
Atlanta is like some metastasized tumor on that night map
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:59 pm to Abstract Queso Dip
10pm CDT advisory coming out now. Winds up to 105mph, pressure down to 962mb.
BULLETIN
Hurricane Ian Advisory Number 16
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL092022
1100 PM EDT Mon Sep 26 2022
...IAN EXPECTED TO BECOME A MAJOR HURRICANE OVERNIGHT OR EARLY
TUESDAY...
...SIGNIFICANT WIND AND STORM SURGE IMPACTS WILL BEGIN
IN WESTERN CUBA VERY SOON...
SUMMARY OF 1100 PM EDT...0300 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...21.3N 83.4W
ABOUT 105 MI...170 KM ESE OF THE WESTERN TIP OF CUBA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...105 MPH...165 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NNW OR 340 DEGREES AT 13 MPH...20 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...962 MB...28.41 INCHES
BULLETIN
Hurricane Ian Advisory Number 16
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL092022
1100 PM EDT Mon Sep 26 2022
...IAN EXPECTED TO BECOME A MAJOR HURRICANE OVERNIGHT OR EARLY
TUESDAY...
...SIGNIFICANT WIND AND STORM SURGE IMPACTS WILL BEGIN
IN WESTERN CUBA VERY SOON...
SUMMARY OF 1100 PM EDT...0300 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...21.3N 83.4W
ABOUT 105 MI...170 KM ESE OF THE WESTERN TIP OF CUBA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...105 MPH...165 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NNW OR 340 DEGREES AT 13 MPH...20 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...962 MB...28.41 INCHES
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:00 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
quote:
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...962 MB
yupppppp.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:02 pm to gaetti15
New NHC discussion says the new cone will be shifted slightly east and it is slowing down.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:02 pm to MikeD
quote:
didnt realize Tampa was as bad as New Orleans when it comes to surge / elevation It’s not as bad a New Orleans. Storm surge will drain in Tampa vs NOLA sat in flood waters for weeks
No

Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:03 pm to gaetti15
Not a bad call eh?
I also thought it would be a major by now.

I also thought it would be a major by now.

Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:03 pm to gaetti15
Has it as a strong Cat 2 just west of Tampa this advisory
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:04 pm to Roll Tide Ravens

Hurricane Ian Discussion Number 16
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL092022
1100 PM EDT Mon Sep 26 2022
Ian continues to become better organized on satellite images with
intense deep convection in its Central Dense Overcast and numerous
surrounding banding features. The overall cloud pattern is quite
symmetric with well-defined upper-level outflow. Observations from
both Air Force and NOAA Hurricane Hunter aircraft indicate that the
central pressure is falling, and the intensity is increased to 90
kt based on a recently reported 700 mb flight-level wind of 101 kt
from the Air Force plane. This is also in agreement with a
subjective Dvorak satellite estimate from SAB.
Aside from its relatively brief time passing over western Cuba, Ian
will be moving over waters of very high oceanic heat content during
the next couple of days. The various Rapid Intensification (RI)
indices show a significant probability of RI and this is reflected
in the short-term official intensity forecast. However, the SHIPS
guidance, which is based on global model predictions, indicates that
a significant increase in southwesterly shear and a substantially
drying of low- to mid-level air will begin in 24-36 hours. The NHC
forecast, like the previous one, shows strengthening to Category 4
intensity in a day or so, followed by gradual weakening. However,
Ian is still expected to be a major hurricane when it reaches the
Florida west coast. The official intensity forecast is near or
above the latest simple and corrected multi-model consensus
predictions.
Ian continues its north-northwestward trek at about 340/11 kt. The
hurricane is expected to move north-northwestward to northward
over the southeastern Gulf of Mexico during the next day or so,
along the western periphery of a subtropical ridge. After around
36 hours, the track forecast becomes more uncertain, since there is
considerable divergence of the track models in the 2-3 day
time frame. The guidance also shows considerable slowing of the
forward speed, due to a weakening of the steering currents, when
Ian approaches the west coast of Florida. This slower forward
motion is likely to prolong the storm surge, wind, and rainfall
impacts, especially along the west coast of Florida. The official
track forecast is adjusted just slightly east of the previous NHC
prediction based on the latest multi-model consensus aid, TVCN.
Key Messages:
1. Life-threatening storm surge, hurricane-force winds, flash floods
and possible mudslides are expected in portions of western Cuba
beginning overnight and continuing into Tuesday. Devastating wind
damage is possible where the core of Ian moves across western Cuba.
Efforts to protect life and property should be rushed to completion.
2. There is a danger of life-threatening storm surge along much
of the Florida west coast where a storm surge warning has been
issued, with the highest risk from Fort Myers to the Tampa Bay
region. Residents in these areas should listen to advice given by
local officials.
3. Hurricane-force winds are expected in the hurricane warning area
in west-central Florida beginning Wednesday morning with tropical
storm conditions expected by late Tuesday.
4. Heavy rainfall will spread across western Cuba through Tuesday.
This will likely produce instances of flash flooding and possible
mudslides in areas of higher terrain over western Cuba.
5. Heavy rainfall will increase across the Florida Keys and South
Florida Tuesday, spreading into central and northern Florida
Wednesday and Thursday and the Southeast by Friday and Saturday,
potentially causing flash, urban and small stream flooding.
Considerable flooding, including significant, prolonged river
flooding, is likely across Central Florida.
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
INIT 27/0300Z 21.3N 83.4W 90 KT 105 MPH
12H 27/1200Z 22.8N 83.7W 105 KT 120 MPH
24H 28/0000Z 24.5N 83.7W 120 KT 140 MPH
36H 28/1200Z 26.1N 83.5W 115 KT 130 MPH
48H 29/0000Z 27.2N 83.1W 105 KT 120 MPH
60H 29/1200Z 27.9N 82.7W 95 KT 110 MPH...INLAND
72H 30/0000Z 28.6N 82.4W 65 KT 75 MPH...INLAND
96H 01/0000Z 31.3N 82.2W 30 KT 35 MPH...INLAND
120H 02/0000Z 35.0N 81.5W 25 KT 30 MPH...INLAND
$$
Forecaster Pasch
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:05 pm to rds dc
I am praying for all Florida baws and their families.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:06 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
Highly encourage reading the NHC forecast discussion that I posted just above this post.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:07 pm to lsuman25
Looks to have moved slightly south. Would suck for Ft Meyers but a landfall south of Tampa between the two would be less devastating to the area.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:09 pm to MikeD
quote:
It’s not as bad a New Orleans. Storm surge will drain in Tampa vs NOLA sat in flood waters for weeks
It is worse than New Orleans. Every study on surge vulnerability has come to the same conclusion. Tampa just hasn't had to deal with it in modern times.
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 10:10 pm
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