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re: I was a member of the jury on the Garrett Ward trial. AMA.

Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:41 pm to
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:41 pm to
Self defense
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:49 pm to
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believe Ward’s and Jackson’s race had an impact on the prosecution, verdict and sentencing.


Don’t forget the crime, too.
Posted by Reluctantjuror
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:51 pm to
Well we convicted for manslaughter which doesn’t have an intent to kill component.

I can’t speak to the judge’s rationale but the max is 40 with no parole if memory serves.
Posted by Reluctantjuror
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:52 pm to
You’d have to talk to him about that.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:03 pm to
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How did you find an intent to kill
You don't need intent to kill. Intent to inflict great bodily harm is enough for 1st or 2nd degree murder. Ward is lucky he only got manslaughter.
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someone who was seriously intoxicated
Being drunk is never a defense.
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and there is no evidence as to how the fight started?
It doesn't matter how the fight started, it matters how it ended. And it ended with a man on the ground getting kicked in the head. It's manslaughter with zero doubt.
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Then, how does a judge give the max amount of years under those circumstances to someone with no criminal history?
I think 40 years is the max.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:09 pm to
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How did you find an intent to kill on someone who was seriously intoxicated and there is no evidence as to how the fight started? Then, how does a judge give the max amount of years under those circumstances to someone with no criminal history?



Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29044 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:14 pm to
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Ward obviously hit and kicked the dead guy. There are only two possible reasons for this:

1. He just decided to attack a random homeless guy for no reason for the first time in his life

Or

2. The guy was rifling though his pocket and he thought he was likely to harm him.

Both are theoretically possible but I think most jurors in another city would believe it was the second reason
You think people in other cities are stupid? Or maybe racist?

If Ward feared for his life, why didn't he report it? Did he still fear for his life after the guy was on the ground calling for help? At what point in the process of beating someone to death would an "average person" (that phrase is on the books) cool off and realize he's in no danger?

It is very likely that he was provoked, possibly by being pickpocketed. So no, I don't believe it was completely random, but if you are provoked and respond in a way that kills someone, that's manslaughter at minimum. That's just what the law says.
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:20 pm to
That’s a tough spot. Glad I wasn’t part of it.
I trust the jury got it right though.

But hard to know in Orleans.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:23 pm to
Do you use antibacterial soap on your Antonio Banderas torso dildo, or just regular smell-good soap?
Posted by LongTime Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:47 am to
Not Dunham. Somewhere in TX
Posted by LongTime Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
2670 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 12:21 pm to
WD suit issue

I imagine Garrett used whatever available assets he had to go toward defense costs. Criminal defense retainers & fees to go through investigation & a 2nd degree murder trial would be pretty expensive, right?
Posted by bdavids09
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:27 pm to
Anyone know if he moved to a new prison or is he stop in OPP? I could not imagine what he’s thinking right now. Holiday’s must be so hard for the incarcerated
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:04 pm to
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nyone know if he moved to a new prison or is he stop in OPP? I could not imagine what he’s thinking right now. Holiday’s must be so hard for the incarcerated


LINK

This just states that he’s transferred to another facility.
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:11 pm to
Did Garrett Ward go to LSU? He looks familiar
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:14 pm to
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Anyone know if he moved to a new prison or is he stop in OPP? I could not imagine what he’s thinking right now. Holiday’s must be so hard for the incarcerated

Who cares what he's thinking? He's a murderer and a monster.
Posted by Newrow
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:31 pm to
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Who cares what he's thinking? He's a murderer and a monster.


Yeah frick em
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22292 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:43 pm to
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Criminal defense retainers & fees to go through investigation & a 2nd degree murder trial would be pretty expensive, right?

Legal costs were more than likely well into the six figures.
Posted by bdavids09
Member since Jun 2017
1351 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:46 pm to
So even if you lose the case and get convicted it’s still that much? That’s got to be a sick feeling spending all that money and and did not help one bit!
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:51 pm to
Who is Garrett Ward?

What was he on trial for?

Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:54 pm to
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That’s got to be a sick feeling spending all that money and and did not help one bit!


This is why crim lawyers get paid up front. You lose and the client isn't paying shite.
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