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Reluctantjuror
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re: I was a member of the jury on the Garrett Ward trial. AMA.
Posted by Reluctantjuror on 7/10/22 at 9:15 am to GentleJackJones
He slapped her at the bar in front of her co-workers prior to going outside and having the altercation. It was undisputed.
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re: I was a member of the jury on the Garrett Ward trial. AMA.
Posted by Reluctantjuror on 7/10/22 at 9:14 am to Barrister
The only sentence for 2nd degree murder by law is life with no parole. We did not know what the sentence would be if we convicted for manslaughter.
re: I was a member of the jury on the Garrett Ward trial. AMA.
Posted by Reluctantjuror on 6/29/22 at 10:52 pm to supadave3
You’d have to talk to him about that.
re: I was a member of the jury on the Garrett Ward trial. AMA.
Posted by Reluctantjuror on 6/29/22 at 10:51 pm to LaPride55
Well we convicted for manslaughter which doesn’t have an intent to kill component.
I can’t speak to the judge’s rationale but the max is 40 with no parole if memory serves.
I can’t speak to the judge’s rationale but the max is 40 with no parole if memory serves.
re: I was a member of the jury on the Garrett Ward trial. AMA.
Posted by Reluctantjuror on 6/29/22 at 10:28 pm to LaPride55
I can only speak to the verdict so to that end can say no one ever spoke about race once. Did we talk about a much younger guy killing an old man, yes.
re: I was a member of the jury on the Garrett Ward trial. AMA.
Posted by Reluctantjuror on 6/29/22 at 10:19 pm to donRANDOMnumbers
During the initial poll only one person voted not guilty and everyone else was a mix of manslaughter and 2nd degree murder. The self defense person pretty quickly switched to manslaughter. We didn’t really talk about self defense much to be honest, ithe discussion was focused on whether or not it was manslaughter or 2nd degree murder.
re: I was a member of the jury on the Garrett Ward trial. AMA.
Posted by Reluctantjuror on 6/29/22 at 9:29 pm to WildBillJR
Our general opinion was that even if you did believe his self defense claim (and only one person did at any point) that his actions far exceeded the necessary force for a 26 year old relatively fit man to defend himself against a pretty frail 60 year old man and that those actions (especially the kick to the head) absolutely caused Jackson’s death.
The only real debate was whether or not the kick to the head (he missed at least one other kick) was enough for 2nd degree murder.
To that point one person said he was too intoxicated to intentionally cause that level of harm and another person would just not budge from manslaughter (after changing the initial poll from self defense) and was pretty illogical as to his reasoning.
A few others went back and forth between manslaughter and 2nd but only one ever believed it was self defense and pretty early on switched to manslaughter.
The only real debate was whether or not the kick to the head (he missed at least one other kick) was enough for 2nd degree murder.
To that point one person said he was too intoxicated to intentionally cause that level of harm and another person would just not budge from manslaughter (after changing the initial poll from self defense) and was pretty illogical as to his reasoning.
A few others went back and forth between manslaughter and 2nd but only one ever believed it was self defense and pretty early on switched to manslaughter.
re: I was a member of the jury on the Garrett Ward trial. AMA.
Posted by Reluctantjuror on 6/29/22 at 8:35 pm to Eighteen
For the record I never said he was blacked out. He was definitely drunk. When he testified he was able to recount the events of the night. He said went downstairs after the altercation with the girlfriend, fell asleep, then woke up when Jackson had cut him and was rifling though his pockets and was able to recount everything after that.
At least for me personally I would not have cared about anyones ethnicity, wealth, etc. and I didn’t get the sense it mattered to anyone else except the one guy who was irrationally opposed to even considering 2nd degree and was the only person to vote for not guilty on the initial poll.
And I never said anything about Perlis. Pretty sure I never said entitled but am too lazy to double check. Happy to be wrong if I did say that at some point.
At least for me personally I would not have cared about anyones ethnicity, wealth, etc. and I didn’t get the sense it mattered to anyone else except the one guy who was irrationally opposed to even considering 2nd degree and was the only person to vote for not guilty on the initial poll.
And I never said anything about Perlis. Pretty sure I never said entitled but am too lazy to double check. Happy to be wrong if I did say that at some point.
re: I was a member of the jury on the Garrett Ward trial. AMA.
Posted by Reluctantjuror on 6/29/22 at 1:40 pm to LSUcdro
He said he was compensated. He also said he doesn’t like being an expert witness.
re: I was a member of the jury on the Garrett Ward trial. AMA.
Posted by Reluctantjuror on 6/29/22 at 10:47 am to hubertcumberdale
My understanding is that once discharged we can talk to anyone about the case but are not obliged to.
re: I was a member of the jury on the Garrett Ward trial. AMA.
Posted by Reluctantjuror on 6/29/22 at 10:07 am to Damone
First time on jury duty so no idea if this typical but when you get there you go and sit in this big waiting room. From there you may be called to go to a court room to be potentially chosen to be a juror for a trial. There must have been about 40 of us. The judge was very strict about our right excusing people. For example one guy said he has a vacation planned so she brought him to chambers and made him show her his booking. I think only 3 were outright excused due to conflicts or whatever. If memory serves one was black and had a vacation planned, 1 was white and was a single dad with no family locally, and 1 was black and had finals coming up at Uno. From there the attorneys asked us questions for like an hour and then we took a break. After the break they told us who had been chosen and then the trial started almost immediately afterwards.
re: I was a member of the jury on the Garrett Ward trial. AMA.
Posted by Reluctantjuror on 6/29/22 at 10:01 am to LSUcajun77
They brought up the knife early in the trial. The pic of the wound on his hand didn’t appear until like the last day of the trial when ward was testifying. He said he had found it on his phone over the weekend at which point he sent it to his attorneys.
I don’t know anyone that had any reasonable doubt about manslaughter. The issue we had was whether or not it was 2nd degree murder.
I don’t know anyone that had any reasonable doubt about manslaughter. The issue we had was whether or not it was 2nd degree murder.
re: I was a member of the jury on the Garrett Ward trial. AMA.
Posted by Reluctantjuror on 6/28/22 at 4:20 pm to WildBillJR
Prosecution asked during voire dire
re: I was a member of the jury on the Garrett Ward trial. AMA.
Posted by Reluctantjuror on 6/28/22 at 3:53 pm to WildBillJR
For me personally especially if it was an older frail man I would have just pushed them and move to a different place. I’ve traveled internationally in large metropolitan areas where pick pocketing is commonplace so have experienced this type of behavior very frequently.
re: I was a member of the jury on the Garrett Ward trial. AMA.
Posted by Reluctantjuror on 6/28/22 at 3:49 pm to TeddyPadillac
There was also no proof of what happened in the previous altercation besides what ward testified to. He went to the hospital but no report was filed with nopd.
Had there been proof that Jackson was robbing ward I would likely vote the same based on what I know of the law. It doesn’t change the fact that ward caused Jackson’s death. I don’t believe the knife defense so won’t posit on a what if scenario where he stabbed ward and while being beat he folded the knife and clipped it back into his pocket before getting kicked in the head.
Had there been proof that Jackson was robbing ward I would likely vote the same based on what I know of the law. It doesn’t change the fact that ward caused Jackson’s death. I don’t believe the knife defense so won’t posit on a what if scenario where he stabbed ward and while being beat he folded the knife and clipped it back into his pocket before getting kicked in the head.
re: I was a member of the jury on the Garrett Ward trial. AMA.
Posted by Reluctantjuror on 6/28/22 at 3:22 pm to idlewatcher
I’m not a lawyer so honestly have no idea but I can say I didn’t see any sort of malfeasance on anyones part. Judge jury defense prosecution.
re: I was a member of the jury on the Garrett Ward trial. AMA.
Posted by Reluctantjuror on 6/28/22 at 3:13 pm to JDPndahizzy
Only ward said that Jackson was going through his pockets.
re: I was a member of the jury on the Garrett Ward trial. AMA.
Posted by Reluctantjuror on 6/28/22 at 2:48 pm to Yeti_Chaser
The couple that saw Jackson approaching and then broke up the fight appeared to be quite reliable. The rest were pretty meh.
re: I was a member of the jury on the Garrett Ward trial. AMA.
Posted by Reluctantjuror on 6/28/22 at 11:24 am to Obtuse1
Defense presented a Baton Rouge neurosurgeon as an expert witness who basically agreed with the other two doctors.
re: I was a member of the jury on the Garrett Ward trial. AMA.
Posted by Reluctantjuror on 6/28/22 at 11:22 am to Box Geauxrilla
My point being is that my friends that live in that area have a pretty symbiotic relationship with the poor and homeless in that area so this would likely not happen. We are very accustomed to just telling them no or Just walking past and saying nothing without any fear of violence. When things like robbery does end up happening we typically are like just give us the stuff back and don’t come around here anymore.
re: I was a member of the jury on the Garrett Ward trial. AMA.
Posted by Reluctantjuror on 6/28/22 at 11:18 am to NC_Tigah
Yes there was no doubt his actions led to Jackson’s death.
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