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re: I was a member of the jury on the Garrett Ward trial. AMA.

Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:47 am to
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37829 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:47 am to
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This guy beats up a homeless man, that was going through his pockets, who died weeks later, no evidence, receives 30 years hard labor. So there was a no reasonable doubt? The jury really believed 100%? Sounds like bull shite. Shouldn’t matter which day the knife pic came, and there was no dna test on the knife? Because he didn’t say anything to police, while still intoxicated? Sounds like there was plenty of doubt.




Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
24845 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:52 am to
Any of you have Garrett’s contact info? I want to put money on his books to get some stamps and Honey Buns
Posted by Splackavellie
Bayou
Member since Oct 2017
12091 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:00 am to
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ut regardless you don't lock someone up for 30 years for being an a-hole


Well, he also killed someone, so there is that.
Posted by Reluctantjuror
Member since Jun 2022
94 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:01 am to
They brought up the knife early in the trial. The pic of the wound on his hand didn’t appear until like the last day of the trial when ward was testifying. He said he had found it on his phone over the weekend at which point he sent it to his attorneys.

I don’t know anyone that had any reasonable doubt about manslaughter. The issue we had was whether or not it was 2nd degree murder.
Posted by Reluctantjuror
Member since Jun 2022
94 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:07 am to
First time on jury duty so no idea if this typical but when you get there you go and sit in this big waiting room. From there you may be called to go to a court room to be potentially chosen to be a juror for a trial. There must have been about 40 of us. The judge was very strict about our right excusing people. For example one guy said he has a vacation planned so she brought him to chambers and made him show her his booking. I think only 3 were outright excused due to conflicts or whatever. If memory serves one was black and had a vacation planned, 1 was white and was a single dad with no family locally, and 1 was black and had finals coming up at Uno. From there the attorneys asked us questions for like an hour and then we took a break. After the break they told us who had been chosen and then the trial started almost immediately afterwards.
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 10:09 am
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30036 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:08 am to
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Any of you have Garrett’s contact info? I want to put money on his books to get some stamps and Honey Buns


I anticipated this years ago:

Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52919 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:08 am to
I'm on GW's legal team for appeal. I'll be sending a subpeona to Chicken for your IP.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120275 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:13 am to
You ever sucked a dick bigger than your best friend's?
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6820 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:18 am to
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I'm on GW's legal team for appeal. I'll be sending a subpeona to Chicken for your IP.



Is it illegal for jurors to disclose informtation about the trial after it’s over? I figured it was public information. Was wondering since this thread started
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:20 am to
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You ever sucked a dick bigger than your best friend's?


Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
4021 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:21 am to
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30 years hard labor to rehabilitate this guy?How does this sentencing make sense?

Sounds like a “make an example” verdict and sentencing.


He'll likely serve less than half of that when good time credits are applied.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30036 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:22 am to
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This guy beats up a homeless man, that was going through his pockets, who died weeks later, no evidence, receives 30 years hard labor.

So there was a no reasonable doubt? The jury really believed 100%?
Sounds like bullshite. Shouldn’t matter which day the knife pic came, and there was no dna test on the knife? Because he didn’t say anything to police, while still intoxicated?

Sounds like there was plenty of doubt.



First, the only evidence of the pocket ruffling was from Ward himself. Ward had years to develop the theory of the knife, funny how his attorneys couldn't come up with more.

This was not written for you but for shrubber who never responded but work through this and see what you come you with.

Also, note the criminal burden of proof is not "100%".

OK let's examine this.

We need to establish some base line.

First, do you believe that Ward hit the decedant?

Second, do you believe the injuries sustained by the decedent were the proximate cause of his death?

If you don't agree with those quite reading and if you would explain what you don't believe and why.

If you agree with those two proffers then you would agree there was a homicide. In this case it was charged as both manslaughter and murder. I am ASSUMING your concerns are around the fact you think Ward may have had a legal right to hit the decedent. I also assume if this is the case then you see a possible self-defense argument.

Unless someone suggests LA does not follow the Alston case then affirmative defenses shift the burden of proof to the defendant. Do you think Ward proved his self-defense claim by a preponderance of the evidence? Do you think Ward also stopped battering the decedent when he no longer could claim his actions were covered by the self-defense affirmative defense?

Posted by SoonerK
Member since Nov 2021
1013 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:27 am to
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Is it illegal for jurors to disclose informtation about the trial after it’s over? I figured it was public information. Was wondering since this thread started

I served as jury foreman for a double murder trial. After the trial was over the judge said we are free to discuss the case with anyone we wanted.
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 10:30 am
Posted by UPT
NOLA
Member since May 2009
5901 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:27 am to
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I'm on GW's legal team for appeal.


That's not going to happen.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30036 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:29 am to
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He'll likely serve less than half of that when good time credits are applied.


We need a LA attorney to chime in but I think the current good time statute in LA will limit good time to under 5 years on a 30y violent crime.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30036 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:31 am to
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I served as foreman for a double murder case. After the trial was over the judge said we are free to discuss the case with anyone we wanted.


There are zero issues with a juror talking to anyone about any aspect of the case or deliberations with anyone once the verdict is read. That being said I don't think that is what Strannix had in mind, I do wish he would share his theory of the case though.
Posted by cbdman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2015
1269 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:34 am to
Believe he's parole eligible upon serving 65% of the sentence.

In the least, would receive good time credit at 3 for every 17 days served (~82%).
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9581 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:38 am to
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Ok it was lazy to say it was an exact match for the city’s demographics



No worries. I was just being a pedantic frick on this one.

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But as we know Nola is a chocolate city. The jury being mostly black isn’t shocking


Agreed 100%.

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You’re not going to win an appeal based on a Batson type issue because there weren’t enough white people.


I know. Appeals are for losers. Mr. Ward is not winning any appeal on this case. He will be doing the time.
Posted by Reluctantjuror
Member since Jun 2022
94 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:47 am to
My understanding is that once discharged we can talk to anyone about the case but are not obliged to.
Posted by LSUcdro
Republic of West Florida
Member since Sep 2009
11360 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:53 am to
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Based on being annoyed to be there, I have a pretty good idea of who it is.



Aren't they financially compensated?


And no one HAS to do it... thats a volunteer/ qualifying type thing
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 10:54 am
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