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re: I think people need to accept that the housing window has closed

Posted on 8/2/26 at 6:41 pm to
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 8/2/26 at 6:41 pm to
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If you lose your house because you lost your job, greater than 50% chance your wife will be gone too.


Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/2/26 at 6:58 pm to
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I wouldn’t call this a bubble because I don’t think we will see the fall we saw in 08, but prices in some major cities are starting to fall and likely normalize.


Not necessarily a bubble but the prices will eventually fall to equilibrium to match the interest rates. Ever notice no one was claiming about housing costs when rates were 3% or less? Now that they are 6+% it will take time for prices to either drop or decrease the rate of appreciation.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/2/26 at 7:53 pm to
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Not necessarily a bubble but the prices will eventually fall to equilibrium to match the interest rates. Ever notice no one was claiming about housing costs when rates were 3% or less? Now that they are 6+% it will take time for prices to either drop or decrease the rate of appreciation.


This has been a topic of discussion here pre-Covid

Now those threads really seem like millennials whining but there was definitely a feeling of how the hell does anyone afford this shite in 2018

It’s just gotten significantly worse between rates and price. Happy I got in before both blew up
Posted by armytiger96
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Posted on 8/2/26 at 8:05 pm to
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Posted by OweO
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Posted on 8/2/26 at 8:06 pm to
Just curious, if its paid off already, what year did you buy it?
Posted by armytiger96
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Posted on 8/2/26 at 8:09 pm to
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Posted on 8/2/26 at 8:16 pm to
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Posted by lsuconnman
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Posted on 8/2/26 at 8:23 pm to
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This has been a topic of discussion here pre-Covid Now those threads really seem like millennials whining but there was definitely a feeling of how the hell does anyone afford this shite in 2018


I remember all of the threads because they were filled with millennials who insisted their lifestyles were incompatible with the anchor of a mortgage or believed they were smarter than the market and relentlessly boasted about having money on the sideline to pounce on discounted properties as soon as the bubble popped.

Now there’s a lot of misguided anger from the same people that are unhappy that those who accepted the anchor challenge were rewarded with a 3% interest rate and an appreciating asset.

Posted by MC5601
Tyler, Texas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/2/26 at 8:24 pm to
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DFW. Try to find a 4/3 house in a safe neighborhood with good schools for under $450k and under 45 min commute to downtown. Impossible I was applying the typical multiplier of 3-5. Good for you for trying to stay under that.



I invest heavily and want to continue to do so to fund a retirement before 60. We make a good living but $7k a month between mortgage, taxes, and insurance on a $700k home is something I just can’t stomach.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/2/26 at 8:33 pm to
You are not in the top 10% of earners and incapable of owning a home. There are other situational factors or choices you have made that lead to this situation.

Home ownership is objectively more difficult now than it once was. This isn’t even worth arguing - it’s factually accurate. The reality is most people do not understand the time value of money whether than be home cost, real wages, inflation, and/or interest rates.
Posted by MC5601
Tyler, Texas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/2/26 at 8:44 pm to
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You are not in the top 10% of earners and incapable of owning a home. There are other situational factors or choices you have made that lead to this situation


Certainly not incapable. The problem is that a 4/3 in a good area with good schools (no private school) and a reasonable commute costs $650k+. Daycare is another $3.6k a month for 2 kids so also something to think about. Will not compromise on keeping our 401k investments maxed as I do not think SS will be there in 30 years. We can technically afford it but it would put us in a position where we are living month to month so don’t want to go that route.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/2/26 at 9:17 pm to
I am familiar with the DFW home market. Good on you for making choices…there is nothing magical about owning a home and you are prioritizing other factors than home ownership. It’s not that you cannot afford a home; rather, you are putting requirements that make owning the home less attainable. Nothing wrong or right, it’s just choices.

I’m generally expecting people to buy homes later in life than previously (don’t actually view this as inherently a bad thing). I also think multi generational homes will become more accepted in the coming generation or two. Grandparents child rearing so that two parents can work full time and not need to put kids in daycare. This makes a ton of sense but has not been the social standard. From a labor economics stand point, it’s a cheat code but very few Americans want to live with their parents or in laws.

This post was edited on 8/2/26 at 9:18 pm
Posted by BrianKellysbuyout
Member since Nov 2025
2276 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 9:24 pm to
My plan is to buy land while my kids are in college or whatever they are doing to figure out their future. I'm gonna build a house and there will be extra land there for them if they choose to. I don't want them to stay in Louisiana, but the option will be there. All they have to do is build it. If not, i'll help them however I can.
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