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re: I Refused To Help a Sr Manager from Another Department

Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35754 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:14 pm to
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I think you should both post employers, job titles, and total comp.


He’s already said he works for a small firm doing government audits at the non partner level. He’s likely auditing city governments or some bullshite. frick.THAT
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24184 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:15 pm to
quote:


I think you should both post employers, job titles, and total comp.


....and height.
Posted by BARNEYSTINSON
Member since Oct 2011
796 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:17 pm to
Could you not have responded along the lines of, “ as that is not my area of concentration any longer, I’m not sure I’d be able to get reacquainted with the material and info needed in the desired deadline..”. Rather than “it’s not my job.”
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35754 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:20 pm to
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....and height.


5’2, 140, would toast your arse on the golf course
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
20154 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:22 pm to
Sir, you are a dickhead.
Posted by littleavery1948
Member since Oct 2014
5397 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:24 pm to
quote:


Could you not have responded along the lines of, “ as that is not my area of concentration any longer, I’m not sure I’d be able to get reacquainted with the material and info needed in the desired deadline..”. Rather than “it’s not my job.



How do you know that I said "it's not my job", or is just inference?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39437 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:27 pm to
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How do you know that I said "it's not my job", or is just inference?


To be fair, how your OP reads, its not a hard inference to make

Probably would have helped your cause to give a little more detail into exactly how you worded and handled your response.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41087 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:27 pm to
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Am I being unreasonable?


Were you asked to assist or were you asked to lead? Big difference.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
14515 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:27 pm to
To a degree - being available to be of helps is different than doing for
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35754 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:29 pm to
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How do you know that I said "it's not my job", or is just inference?


quote:

It's no longer my job, and I am in another department, b) a Sr Manager should be able to figure out the project without assistance from another department. CFO is very upset that I refused to assist
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41087 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:29 pm to
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If you get a paycheck, you do what your boss wants. Plain and simple. Explaining to your CFO your position is fine, but what he says goes.


No. If the OP doesn’t have the time to take on this project he needs to clearly state that and demonstrate that. This entire culture of the manager having all the power sucks dick and leads to unreasonable expectations
Posted by pelicanpride
Houston
Member since Oct 2007
1661 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:29 pm to
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CFO is very upset that I refused to assist and says that my expectations for this new Sr Manager is unreasonable.


If your position eventually reports into the CFO, then you done messed up. Regardless, you should have made your manager aware of the request because:
A. If you had decided to help with it, your manager should be aware since you won’t be getting your actual assigned duties completed.
B. If your manager doesn’t want your time to be spent on this project, he/she can give you the cover you need.

From your post is sounds like you sort of went rogue.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
61924 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:29 pm to
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I can assure you, I am not jealous of someone doing government audits. Quite possibly the worst work available in public accounting.


It's true. At lot of CPAs just aren't smart enough to handle what we do. Fund accounting is pretty ridiculous.

On top of that, continuing changes in regulation and government auditing standards are forcing many firms out of the space, which has led to fewer competitors. We can essentially write our own paychecks. It's a great field that is completely recession-proof and does not react to market changes.

It's why I chose it when I switched careers less than 10 years ago and why I have since shot up into upper management. Anyone considering a career as a CPA should seriously look at government for the very reason that attitude's like Mingos are so prevalent about it. It is a field that is ripe for the picking and will never go away.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35754 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:33 pm to
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forcing many firms out of the space, which has led to fewer competitors


Because it’s shitty and not profitable work

quote:

We can essentially write our own paychecks.


Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9813 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:33 pm to
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Say yes when there is something in it for you. Say no if there’s not or you truly don’t have the capacity


I'm guessing you don't understand what voluntold is. You don't get to decide if you want to go perform a task or fill in a shift. You've don it before, you have the knowledge and ability, it's a CYA for the manager. It's always a nice way of making you do work that is not in your job description.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61594 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:45 pm to
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however, I have much higher expectations for those in a Sr Manager role


Who the frick cares what your expectations are?

Do you want that job? I don’t really understand your complaint.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
61924 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:48 pm to
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Because it’s shitty and not profitable work



You are so uninformed.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61594 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:48 pm to
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But also in between the lines, Sr. Finance Manager got the job over OP, and OP's point of view is that they should have hired someone who could do the job.


If that’s the case it’s a much better explanation for not helping than what was said in the OP.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
15522 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:49 pm to
They'll be remembering this next time there are layoffs
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61594 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:50 pm to
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lots of shake up where my daughter worked until a week or so ago, and yes, it's DEI at work, lots of people being hired/promoted that do not meet the experience or qualifications for the job


The DEI angle also makes sense.
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