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re: I miss the days of simple job candidate searches

Posted on 6/18/26 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by Cotten
Tennessee
Member since Jan 2018
1873 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 1:33 pm to
Here’s a reality check:
The job you’re hiring for honestly sucks. The pay is typically low, the work is usually shite, and in general everyone hates insurance salesmen.

But, it’s a job and it can certainly be treated as such. By that I mean to find a reliable worker and train them to do what you need. If you’re looking to find someone who is going to be tell you how gung-ho they are to wake up everyday saying their passion is insurance, you need a hard reset in reality. You certainly don’t need a Harvard graduate, and honestly id venture to say you really barely need a HS diploma if you’re reliable.
Posted by Count deMonet
Kingdom of France
Member since Aug 2018
657 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 1:42 pm to
My department doesn't do sales, we're on the service side, worker's compensation claims to be specific (and also why it's required by law). Our entry level salary is 60k. I only take credit for giving people the opportunity, they achieve success through hard work. Several people I have hired are now leaders both in my department and in other roles.
Posted by Shadowlink
The Shadows
Member since Apr 2014
1437 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:00 pm to
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Our entry level salary is 60k
That's better than most in the NOLA area
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61452 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:08 pm to
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Our entry level salary is 60k
this is 45k in 2019 dollars

just dropping this in here, with no comment
Posted by Gifman
Captiva, FL
Member since Jan 2021
19603 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:38 pm to
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seem to be happy.


quote:

NOLA


Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39195 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:58 pm to
Any time i have been recruited they were upfront with their offer. Best not to waste anyone's time
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
23184 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 3:03 pm to
Aren't you a restaurant manager though?
Posted by PCRammer
1725 Slough Avenue in Scranton, PA
Member since Jan 2014
1977 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 4:02 pm to
Had an applicant a couple months ago for a jr civil survey position. Dude's name was Christopher but legit on his cover letter he had a couple of personal details about himself, certified diver, can speak French, etc. But then it said you can call me Topher.

Sorry bro, I'm not interviewing you if you wish to be addressed as Topher.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41860 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 4:09 pm to
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A lot of older people have seriously out of wack salary expectations. Granted some of it is because 2019 saleries aren't good offers anymore

a couple years ago, i went round and round on phone interviews with some company that came to me. Eventually at the third lunch i had with these guys, they gave an offer 40-50k less than i was making. They were insulted i turned it down as if i wasted their time.

It was my fault for not asking salary upfront but since they recruited me, i figured they had a reasonable offer.


I went through a fricking 6 months interview process, making it to the final 2 with a major, private university. They had the salary range for the job posted publicly. When asked what my salary expectations were, I gave a number slightly above the midpoint of the range listed.

I ended up not getting the job, and when I asked for feedback the only thing the hiring manager would tell me is that everyone thought I was a great candidate, but that my salary expectation was too far away from what they'd budgeted for the position.
Posted by travelgamer
Member since Aug 2024
3030 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 4:10 pm to
Let me guess, you provide free non paid training, and they must get certified at their own expense.
Posted by SouthMSReb
Member since Dec 2013
4762 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 4:32 pm to
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Here is the problem


It’s been a great career for me.
Posted by Count deMonet
Kingdom of France
Member since Aug 2018
657 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 4:47 pm to
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Let me guess, you provide free non paid training, and they must get certified at their own expense.


Our employees are fully compensated from day 1 and we pay all expenses associated with training and certifications. Everyone is eligible for benefits day 1. We don't treat people like commodities. We believe our people are our best resource.

I work for one of the best companies in the US and our parent company is one of the finest and most respected organizations in the world.



Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
5684 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 4:47 pm to
There’s money to be made in the right insurance. I know claims adjusters making bank. Not shifty work. Just handling claims that come to them. And it’s remote work, mostly. On the other end a broker can make bank. Not a bad industry get into if in the right position. Issue is folks don’t want to start out and “pay their dues” to move on up.
Posted by travelgamer
Member since Aug 2024
3030 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 4:49 pm to
Then you are the top 1% of the top 1% of the insurance industry, good on you!
Posted by Count deMonet
Kingdom of France
Member since Aug 2018
657 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 5:07 pm to
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There’s money to be made in the right insurance. I know claims adjusters making bank. Not shifty work. Just handling claims that come to them. And it’s remote work, mostly. On the other end a broker can make bank. Not a bad industry get into if in the right position. Issue is folks don’t want to start out and “pay their dues” to move on up.


Yep. We are a work from office company though, with 1 day WFH once trained. We make the office environment fun. We have essentially a game room with a couple video games, putting green, shuffle board, plus free snacks, soft drinks, beer and wine.

I'd love to hire 1-2 entry level people who want to put in effort. If you know of anyone, have them send a resume to jaws zero four one six at gmail.com
This post was edited on 6/18/26 at 5:57 pm
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39195 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 5:16 pm to
Yes
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71806 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 5:19 pm to
Despite the billions of applications and job postings these days, it's still who you know as it always has been.

People sending out hundreds of apps are wasting their time. Probably 5% of those submissions ever get seen by a human.
Posted by travelgamer
Member since Aug 2024
3030 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 5:23 pm to
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Count deMonet


Putting your email on here in that form is not good, bots will pick it up

use jaws 04 at g mail.
This post was edited on 6/18/26 at 5:30 pm
Posted by Count deMonet
Kingdom of France
Member since Aug 2018
657 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 5:25 pm to
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Despite the billions of applications and job postings these days, it's still who you know as it always has been. People sending out hundreds of apps are wasting their time. Probably 5% of those submissions ever get seen by a human.


Agree. I’ve hired dozens of successful people through word of mouth. I get better results than mass postings.
Posted by Count deMonet
Kingdom of France
Member since Aug 2018
657 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 5:57 pm to
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Putting your email on here in that form is not good, bots will pick it up


Thanks, I fixed it.
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