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Posted on 2/12/18 at 12:01 pm to kingbob
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banned U.S. troops from destroying poppy fields to discourage its cultivation
Not our country, not our business. The End.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 12:05 pm to Legion of Doom
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I work in medicine and actually I agree with you. I think the flow of narcotics needs to be stopped to a drip- reserved for acute illness in the short term and end of life-like hospice. But I don’t think cutting people off without offering supervised detox and treatment is right either.
There's also a push on the psych side to encourage alternatives for chronic pain such as biofeedback therapy. I think we absolutely need to look at the non-opioid alternatives to pain management. Unfortunately, a lot of people aren't willing to do that when they know there's a pill out there to give that instant relief.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 12:09 pm to weagle99
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Make fun of me all you want but I don’t believe half the shite I hear on PSAs until I get verification. And you shouldn’t either.
Then I guess I haven't buried multiple friends, at least one family member, and have seen multiple middle-class people go through rehab as a result of this crisis here in Kentucky. Because that PSA must've been the government lying to you.
frick off with your ridiculous skepticism on this.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 12:09 pm to weagle99
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Make fun of me all you want but I don’t believe half the shite I hear on PSAs until I get verification. And you shouldn’t either.
So you come to TD for your “verification”?
Posted on 2/12/18 at 12:10 pm to weagle99
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Make fun of me all you want but I don’t believe half the shite I hear on PSAs until I get verification. And you shouldn’t either.
Only way to know for sure is to eat a fistful of oxys.
Make sure you report back.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 12:12 pm to soccerfüt
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Hasn't touched me or mine yet either.
That you know of.
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Mostly poors.
It is definitely not limited to poor people.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 12:33 pm to weagle99
It is real AND it is overblown.
Government overreach has caused the “stocks” of heroin to skyrocket.
Thinking we are going to turn the US into Europe when it comes to opiate prescriptions in a couple years is ridiculous.
I can go on but I’ll see how this thread plays out.
Government overreach has caused the “stocks” of heroin to skyrocket.
Thinking we are going to turn the US into Europe when it comes to opiate prescriptions in a couple years is ridiculous.
I can go on but I’ll see how this thread plays out.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 12:35 pm to weagle99
It's not an epidemic, it's natural selection.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 6:37 pm to McLemore
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I can attest to the desensitization effect of opioids. over a 9-month period, I was given fentanyl 4 times, same dosage, before procedures. I was totally zonked for the first one, for some time; zonked for shorter time on second; half-asleep for about 5 mins for third; and awake the entire time for the fourth. f that.
You don’t develop tolerance from just 4 doses spread over a 9 month period. It just doesn’t work that way.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 7:04 pm to weagle99
No it's real and it's definitely not over blown. The pain pill problem has made the heroin market explode.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 7:21 pm to TheCaterpillar
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But this part is not completely false. It sure would slow it down a lot. Doctors are adapting and starting to give fewer pain pills and sometimes no pain pills to their patients for minor surgeries.
Legalize pot (or at least reschedule) and a yuuuuge chunk of the problem is solved. Weed states have a lot fewer opioid prescriptions.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 7:30 pm to soccerfüt
quote:Couldn't be further from the truth.
Mostly poors.
Hasn't touched me or mine yet either.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 8:03 pm to weagle99
if you are really interested in finding out if there is an opiate epidemic in our country, read "Dream Land" by Sam Quinones. it's an incredibly detailed and researched account of the epidemic from the beginnings of it in the '70's/'80's to what is going on in the present. it is nonfiction that reads like a thriller.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 8:37 pm to weagle99
Drugs do not discriminate. Money or not.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 8:42 pm to stniaSxuaeG
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You don’t develop tolerance from just 4 doses spread over a 9 month period. It just doesn’t work that way.
I'm just telling what happened. I'm sure there were plenty of factors at work. But I know it was the same dosage of fentanyl and I know I was awake while a surgeon dug a chemo port out or my chest 9 months after a pulmonologist stuck a bronchoscope down my throat and I never knew what happened.
I didn't have even a single NSAID in between, much less narcotics.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 8:46 pm to McLemore
Purdue pharma laid off many of its Oxy sales force this past Friday, citing lawsuits from many states as one reason, and claimed it is doing away with actively selling opioids to physicians.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 8:51 pm to weagle99
It's a pain killer.
Automatic constipation.
Its so powerful that combining with other drugs is often suicide.
Apparently addictive.
That's it.
Automatic constipation.
Its so powerful that combining with other drugs is often suicide.
Apparently addictive.
That's it.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 8:54 pm to weagle99
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I know almost nothing about the drug world. Is there actually somethibg happening or is it overblown save the world hype?
What should I be doing to prepare for my opiod addicted overlords?
It might depend on the areas of the country with which you are familiar as well.
The Ohio River Valley region (think Pittsburgh to St. Louis, including Cincinnati, Louisville, West Virginia, Kentucky, southern Ohio, western PA, southern Indiana, southern Illinois, parts of Missouri) has been absolutely obliterated by the shite. That part of the country is ground zero for the problem. There is a town in southern Indiana with a population of about 4,000 that had ~200 HIV cases in a single year because of needle sharing.
I went to a very good private school (tuition is more than $13,000/year now) in the region, and we've lost five people in my graduating class to opiod overdoses in the last two years. That shite does not discriminate.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 8:54 pm to weagle99
Not unusual for the number of prescriptions in rural counties in America to exceed the actual population by 10-25%. Some companies are making tobacco companies look decent. They know it and are already trying to settle lawsuits in hopes this will go away quietly.
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