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re: I just rewatched the Duke lacrosse 30-30

Posted on 2/24/18 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by RemyLeBeau
Member since Mar 2015
1794 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 1:17 pm to
Tawana Brawley and "Rev" Al Sharpton did their best to lay out a blueprint of how to drum up false allegations against men and drive it home destroying peoples lives along the way.

Sharpton got off easy. His arse should have been thrown in jail.
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“We have the facts and the evidence that an assistant district attorney and a state trooper did this,” Mr. Sharpton said. He called Gov. Mario M. Cuomo a racist and warned that powerful state officials were complicit. When asked whether Ms. Brawley would speak with the state attorney general, Robert Abrams, Mr. Sharpton said that would be like asking someone in a concentration camp to talk to Hitler.


NY Times revisiting Tawana Brawley rape scandal
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
83337 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 2:30 pm to
Ten years after Duke Lacrosse rape hoax, media has learned nothing


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It's now been 10 years since members of the Duke University lacrosse team hired two strippers for a party and were then accused of rape. The three players who were arrested for the rape were deemed innocent, the district attorney who pursued the case despite evidence to the contrary was disbarred and those in the media that pushed the false narrative looked like fools.

Except, in the decade since the hoax, members of the media have not learned anything when it comes to stories that confirm their pre-existing narratives. That was proven in late 2014, when Rolling Stone published a now-retracted article claiming a woman was gang-raped at a different university. It has been just over a year since that story went to print, but it has been 10 years since the Duke Lacrosse scandal and yet neither hoax has led to the media searching their consciences when it comes to allegations of heinous crimes such as rape.



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On Sunday, ESPN aired the latest in their "30 for 30" series, titled "Fantastic Lies." The documentary was about the Duke Lacrosse rape hoax and aired on the anniversary of the day the team members threw that fateful party. The documentary told the story of how the story exploded in the national media and was eventually proven false.

Yet some in the media don't seem to believe the Duke players were victims themselves. Take Slate's Christina Cauterucci, for example. She wrote that "it's a bizarre experience to watch a documentary that expects the viewer to root for a bunch of accused rapists." This highlights exactly the problem with false accusations: Even when someone is proven innocent, they are always somehow guilty of something, because they are "accused rapists."



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watching the documentary, I can't help but see similarities to how campus accusations are handled today, not only by the media but also by campus administrators. "Guilty until proven innocent," as occurred in the Duke case, has become the norm on college campuses



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Then, even when the accusations become questionable or are proven false, the media covers itself in the way Cauterucci did – by blaming the falsely accused. In the documentary, Selena Roberts, a former sports columnist for the New York Times, editorialized: "There was plenty foul about that night," in reference to the party thrown by the Lacrosse players.



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Then comes the spin from those committed to the narrative that "something must have happened," as Jay Bilas, an ESPN analyst and lawyer pointed out.

"I understand people saying [that something happened in the bathroom], there's just no evidence of it. And none of it's credible. In fact, every piece of evidence points to the fact that nothing did and it was impossible for it to have happened," Bilas said. "And if you look at all of the inconsistent statements, the evidence that wasn't there, it's an impossibility."



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Ruth Sheehan, a Raleigh News & Observer columnist who had written an article demanding the Lacrosse players turn each other in (for a crime they didn't commit), was the only journalist who appeared to regret what she had done initially. She wrote a column apologizing to the team when the case was over and the boys were cleared.

"I guess we should have tamped our outrage and waited to see what the evidence showed," Sheehan said.


Posted by WhoDatNC
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Member since Dec 2013
11692 posts
Posted on 2/25/18 at 9:29 am to
Maybe Alleva will go to Mich State.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79115 posts
Posted on 2/25/18 at 9:33 am to
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And don't forget the 88 cocksuckers who signed that awful letter and never retracted it



Some who were punished by having to go from Duke to full professor positions at Vandy, Harvard and MIT

It really was a social travesty
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171035 posts
Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:24 am to
And most of you fricks had them pinned as guilty from day one. It was a shitty time to be a lacrosse player during that trial.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18894 posts
Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:37 am to
Been said multiple times but bears repeating. LSU hired Alleva after this frick up. How did that happen?
Posted by unotiger21
Member since Sep 2010
934 posts
Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:37 pm to
They are 100 percent innocent.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76173 posts
Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:52 pm to
It’s an embarrassment that Alleva has any job, much less at my Alma mater.
Posted by TexHoss
BR
Member since Mar 2008
429 posts
Posted on 2/25/18 at 1:39 pm to
Almost certainly signed a non-disclosure agreement as part of their deal with the university preventing them from commenting.

The three accused started the Innoncence Project which is a non-profit legal organization committed to exonerating the wrongly accused. Think those guys are doing their share of good.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34002 posts
Posted on 2/25/18 at 1:53 pm to
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Take Slate's Christina Cauterucci, for example. She wrote that "it's a bizarre experience to watch a documentary that expects the viewer to root for a bunch of accused rapists."


Shouldn’t it have been written as “falsely accused rapists “? This seems like a delayed character assassination. Are there legal grounds to sue the author/site?
Posted by Jim Smith
Member since May 2016
2915 posts
Posted on 2/25/18 at 1:57 pm to
Meanwhile, we’ve entered a point in this coming where all female accusers must be taken at their word and the male must be immediately fired because nobody EVER makes up a fake sexual harassment/assault accusation. Wtf?
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62850 posts
Posted on 2/25/18 at 2:02 pm to
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What ever happened to the piece of shite athletic director?


I love first response kill shots.
Posted by shspanthers
Nashville, TN
Member since Sep 2007
766 posts
Posted on 2/25/18 at 3:55 pm to
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Out of all the sports for this to happen to, lacrosse was probably the best. At least these kids’ families were well off enough to fight this.


Exactly. Can you imagine if these men hadn't been able to afford to fight it? They would probably still be in jail.
This post was edited on 2/25/18 at 3:56 pm
Posted by jerm
Chalmette, La
Member since Feb 2006
59 posts
Posted on 2/25/18 at 5:12 pm to
So edgy...
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132211 posts
Posted on 2/25/18 at 5:13 pm to
nancy grace had a big egg on her face too
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70858 posts
Posted on 2/25/18 at 6:07 pm to
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The three accused started the Innoncence Project which is a non-profit legal organization committed to exonerating the wrongly accused. Think those guys are doing their share of good.


They weren't the founders. Barry Scheck started that up a few years after the OJ trial.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421466 posts
Posted on 2/25/18 at 6:16 pm to
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The thing that stood out to me was none of the guys accused agreed to be interviewed 10 years later

confidentiality clauses in settlement agreements usually don't have an expiration date
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