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re: I have a friend that’s an honest to god 9/11 conspiracy theorist
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:01 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:01 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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he believes jet fuel can’t melt steel beams
Maybe it can, maybe it can’t, but it sure as hell can start a bunch of other stuff burning all at the same time.
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:08 am to Globetrotter747
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people here think the government just tried to assassinate Trump
I don’t know if they did or didn’t. Clearly, you accept the confidence inspiring testimony from secret service and FBI leaders. When there is bipartisan congressional concern about an event then we should all take it as possible.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:11 am to jimmy the leg
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And that’s the elite of the elite under the Biden / Harris regime. That’s damn scary imho.
My brother in law who works with a security contractor in DC explained it this way. Security operations must always fight institutional complacence. There is no regular tradition or practice of political assassination in the US, so they go through the motions every day for a threat that never materializes. Folks naturally start to cut corners and get lazy because they find that on a day to day basis they don’t really have much to do. It’s a natural feature of a kind of security that is, for the most part, unnecessary. And that creates complacency. If we had more of a tradition of taking shots at political persons, the security force would be more robust and attentive.
What we saw at the Trump rally was actual complacency due to the officers not ever having to actually do what they are there to do. Month after month, year after year, no actual threat existed. They got lazy.
You can bet all Secret Service officers are on high alert now.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:16 am to jimmy the leg
You don’t remember the loon armed with a knife that jumped the fence and got into the white house during obama’s second term?
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:18 am to jimmy the leg
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With a non-impact?
Are you disputing that it was on fire from pretty much top to bottom?
Or that it it wouldn’t collapse despite that fact if there was no impact?
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:35 am to Globetrotter747
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CN someone help me explain to this moron how the towers went down, he believes jet fuel can’t melt steel beams
A lot of people here think the government just tried to assassinate Trump. I would look somewhere else for a voice of reason.
Only a special kind of idiot would believe some random kid was able to get 8 shots off in a perfect shooting location against a Presidential candidate without being extremely skeptical
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:37 am to JohnnyKilroy
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You don’t remember the loon armed with a knife that jumped the fence and got into the white house during obama’s second term?
Did he make it into the WH?
ETA - he did.
Of note -
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At the time, President Obama and his family were not at home.
I would suggest that equating that incident with the attempted assassination attempt of Trump is a false equivalency imho.
This post was edited on 8/4/24 at 8:43 am
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:39 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
Read the project for a new American Century manifesto and then apologize to your friend for sullying his reputation
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:45 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Are you disputing that it was on fire from pretty much top to bottom?
No
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Or that it it wouldn’t collapse despite that fact if there was no impact?
I would suggest that it was highly unlikely to collapse due simply to a fire. As in 0.0000001 % chance of that actually happening.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:48 am to TBoy
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There is no regular tradition or practice of political assassination in the US, so they go through the motions every day for a threat that never materializes. Folks naturally start to cut corners and get lazy because they find that on a day to day basis they don’t really have much to do.
As someone that served in the US Military and trained seemingly non-stop, practicing responses does not make one complacent. That theory doesn’t jive with my experiences.
This post was edited on 8/4/24 at 10:13 am
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:51 am to sqerty
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No wreckage of any plane was found at the pentagon
Of course there's pics of it.
And do you loons think 3 other planes were used but for the Pentagon they said, "let's fire a missile instead and hide the plane and passengers for years from the public."
Posted on 8/4/24 at 9:34 am to jimmy the leg
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With a non-impact?
It was impacted by a shite ton of debris from the collapsing giant building next to it
Posted on 8/4/24 at 9:35 am to jimmy the leg
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I would suggest that it was highly unlikely to collapse due simply to a fire. As in 0.0000001 % chance of that actually happening.
Based on what?
Show your work.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 9:51 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Based on what?
A family business that centers on large scale (skyscraper) construction. Project management, architecture, and engineering. 60 plus years in multiple continents.
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Show your work.
For an opinion?
I just did.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 10:16 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
quote:I stopped dismissing screwball theories ever since the OT accused Jussie Smollett of lying. Just nod your head and move on. Occasionally the screwballs get it right.
I have a friend that’s an honest to god 9/11 conspiracy theorist
This post was edited on 8/4/24 at 10:17 am
Posted on 8/4/24 at 10:22 am to jimmy the leg
quote:how many of your skyscrapers have burned ground floor to roof unabated for 7+ hours? Did they have a similar lack of load bearing support around the perimeter of the structure like wtc 7 had? What happened to them?
A family business that centers on large scale (skyscraper) construction. Project management, architecture, and engineering. 60 plus years in multiple continents.
Eta: and how many of your family’s buildings have had an adjacent building drop thousands of pounds of debris on top of them?
This post was edited on 8/4/24 at 10:32 am
Posted on 8/4/24 at 10:25 am to jimmy the leg
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As someone that served in the US Military and trained seemingly non-stop, practicing responses does not make one complacent.
You obviously never did much ECP, tower, or gate guard.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 10:26 am to jimmy the leg
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I would suggest that it was highly unlikely to collapse due simply to a fire.
Structural integrity was weakened by heat, brought the upper floors down.
Its really not a difficult idea, yet simps jump over each other to come up with crackpot theories.
There may be a conspiracy regarding 911, but heat and compromised structures brought the building down, period.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 10:29 am to OMLandshark
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That there’s no way a building collapsing in the way they said it did. You’re a fool if you think it did.
The way is described succinctly on page 4 of this thread.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 10:33 am to OMLandshark
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That there’s no way a building collapsing in the way they said it did.
Why not? Be specific.
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