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re: I got Port Hudson’d today. 530 jobs gone

Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:24 pm to
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:24 pm to
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Duffnshank

I got Port Hudson’d today. 530 jobs gone
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But oweo gets treated exactly as his behavior deserves

I don’t want to hijack the op’s thread here but this is exactly right. Btw, I don’t know many people that have been anywhere 25 years. Loyalty is a virtue op so I have no doubt you will land on your feet. Best of luck



Simmer down. This isn’t about you.
Posted by BoxmanTiger
Ohio
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:26 pm to
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Posted by sprig
South Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
111 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:28 pm to
Did IP close down the mill in Bastrop or sold out?
We still do some chem business with Industrial Chemicals in Bastrop, Urania, and Gloster, MS frequently.
Not sure if they closed the mill down or sold out to another company (ICS).

ETA: have GP and IP (international paper) mixed up.
Usually deal with IP Redwood for cleaning jobs and supplied to GP in Zachary before their cuts.

This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 9:33 pm
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
37334 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:29 pm to
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I’m divorced as 90% of us operator baws are, and the kiddos live with momma. Scares me to think of moving away from them tho, because I’m still very active in their lives.


Look at Graphic in WM or even the plants in Sterlington.

My Dad went to work for IP two days after college graduation and was one of the ones impacted with the Bastrop closure. He transferred to Mansfield for a few years and is now drawing his full pension as well as working a sweet gig at Graphic at the ripe old age of 62.
Posted by RunningBlake
Member since Aug 2011
4106 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:29 pm to
Keep your head up. That's devastating for that area.
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
37334 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:31 pm to
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Did IP close down the mill in Bastrop


Yes. The mill has been completely demolished.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:32 pm to
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Did IP close down the mill in Bastrop or sold out?
We still do some chem business with Industrial Chemicals in Bastrop, Urania, and Gloster, MS frequently.
Not sure if they closed the mill down or sold out to another company (ICS).


I remember about 4 years ago when IP closed down in Courtland, AL. It devestaded the whole community. It's a sad fact but paper is a dying industry and regs don't help it either.

I hope OP finds something as good as he is doing.
Posted by Duffnshank
Member since Jan 2019
659 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:33 pm to
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Simmer down. This isn’t about you

You’re absolutely right
Posted by sprig
South Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
111 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:36 pm to
The plant at 425 and Carl Rd is no longer rolling?
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:37 pm to
Markets are constantly evolving and will continue to do so.

I'm curious as to how it is more economical to close the pulp mill and ship pulp in when they will continue to make toilet paper and towels there.

How far away is it going to be shipped in from and how will that impact local logging jobs?
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37639 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:45 pm to
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HogBalls


Sorry to hear it man. I have been through it myself.
Posted by Doctor Strangelove
Member since Feb 2018
2963 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:57 pm to
The internet has killed print media, thus fewer paper mills are needed. Much like the carriage and wagon wheel makers when automobiles supplanted them.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8006 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:59 pm to
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I remember about 4 years ago when IP closed down in Courtland, AL. It devestaded the whole community. It's a sad fact but paper is a dying industry and regs don't help it either.


Not sure as it's dying so much as it's shifting and consolidating. Aggregate demand is as high as it has ever been - it's just in corrugate, carton, and the like. The digital economy has sucked for paper in some areas, but it's been a huge boom in others.

I'd probably put a decent bit of blame on higher management as that sort of thing comes down to demand management, product strategy, and understanding industry dynamics.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:04 pm to
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I'd probably put a decent bit of blame on higher management as that sort of thing comes down to demand management, product strategy, and understanding industry dynamics.


I think IP's other issue was an aging workforce because people didn't retire/leave and they were facing a huge benefits package they were going to have to start paying out.

Or so I heard.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30401 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:05 pm to
Really bad news. Have a few relatives still working there. Most of the relatives up there are older, and have already retired from GP. Will be at a family reunion in Crossett next weekend. I'm sure this will be the main topic of conversation.

My dad married a Bastrop girl who's dad worked at the oldest mill there. My dad got on there, and both were part of the exodus to Vidalia, and the Natchez mill, when it was new. He worked for IP for 47 years, and has great retirement.

Different paperless, and defined retirement-less, world we're living in today. Wonder how different it will be when my grand kids reach retirement age.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30401 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:10 pm to
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How many letters do you write? When did you last buy a newspaper?


Yep, we send our TPS reports by text, or email these days.

My 85 year old mom sent my niece an Amazon gift card by text last week. I didn't even know you could do that.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8006 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:15 pm to
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GP Crossett pulled a Port Hudson on us today. 530 jobs gone. I’ve never filled out a resume in my life. I had about 25 years in at this mill. Scary times for us baws in the paper industry.
GP Crossett AR


I feel for ya, OP.

Couple words of advice:

- Take a few days (maybe even the rest of this week) to decompress, maybe have a few cold ones, go out with friends, and all that. Don't think about your professional situation at all for a few days.

- Starting on Monday morning, wake up and go through your normal routine. Instead of going to work, sit down and start treating your job search like a full-time job. Do this every day. Wake up, normal morning routine, then hop on it. Resume building, defining and articulating your skills, research into companies, reaching out to people who work at places you might want to work, thinking long and hard about where you might want to live...all of that.

- Start with your resume then identify two things: what professional skills differentiate you from the crowd and what you'd really want to do with that skillset if you had your choice of jobs.

- Use every professional resource available to you, whether provided by GP, independent, whatever.

- Network like crazy, and never say no to a networking call, whether it's your ex's brother's best friend's boss or something like that.

- Keep your emotions in check. Job searching after a lay off can be an emotional roller-coaster. Try not to get too high or too low with every bit of news or lead or whatever.

- Be a little careful of taking the very first offer that comes across your desk (though, obviously, you shouldn't absolutely turn it down). This is a little like dating advice, but it's true - know your economic and professional value and leverage it. If you don't feel comfortable with the company, salary, whatever, then either go back and negotiate or walk away.

Best of luck, man.
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 10:25 pm
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8006 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:16 pm to
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I'd probably put a decent bit of blame on higher management as that sort of thing comes down to demand management, product strategy, and understanding industry dynamics.


I think IP's other issue was an aging workforce because people didn't retire/leave and they were facing a huge benefits package they were going to have to start paying out.

Or so I heard.


If they're still on defined benefits, then Lord have mercy on them. That's definitely a management/union leadership issue.
Posted by Relham10
Ridge
Member since Jan 2013
15655 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:17 pm to
Sorry to hear this man. Best of luck to you and the paper mill baws.
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:18 pm to
Apply at Delek - lion oil, el dorado chemical, graphic packaging in West Monroe, westrock in hodge, la, angus chemical in Monroe, entergy in Monroe, IP Vicksburg, IP Mansfield or IP Campti, Georgia pacific Texarkana or Domtar in ashdown

I call on all of them and they would probably all use someone like you.
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 10:19 pm
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