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re: ‘I Feel Like I Got Duped’: Tesla Price Drop Angers Current Owners

Posted on 1/16/23 at 8:13 pm to
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23514 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 8:13 pm to
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Thats how markets work. Be smarter




Ev economics have nothing to do with "markets"
Posted by Zendog
Santa Barbara
Member since Feb 2019
4919 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 8:13 pm to
Andrew Checketts is the baseball coach at U.C. Santa Barbara
Posted by UAinSOUTHAL
Mobile,AL
Member since Dec 2012
4909 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 8:37 pm to
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quote:Their FSD is light years ahead of any other manufacturer. Mercedes is ahead. They have level 3 autonomous driving. Tesla’s FSD is only level 2.


You are wrong. Mercedes L3 has only been approved in Nevada and is not available in any MY23 US cars. Mercedes currently doesn’t know or have a date for when it will be available. Tesla is the best you can get in the USA and it’s not even close.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162856 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 8:41 pm to
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25% may be tame

Wish they would go down here but we might be insulated from the downturn to some degree
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
36343 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 8:43 pm to
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You are wrong. Mercedes L3 has only been approved in Nevada and is not available in any MY23 US cars. Mercedes currently doesn’t know or have a date for when it will be available. Tesla is the best you can get in the USA and it’s not even close.


As of this month mercedes has said they expect the L3 to be available this year in the US. It's been available in germany for over 6 months.

Also while the latest iteration may still be superior, blue cruise from ford and super cruise from GM isn't really that far behind.

Tesla used to be the only game in town regarding "self-driving" tech. Like it was your sole option for a few years. Not so anymore.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
13574 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 8:58 pm to
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Tesla used to be the only game in town regarding "self-driving" tech. Like it was your sole option for a few years. Not so anymore.

Tesla will be surpassed, their hardware choices guarantee it. But at the moment it’s them and then everyone else below. FSD beta kills everything else available today in capabilities.
This post was edited on 1/16/23 at 8:59 pm
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5082 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 9:28 pm to
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bought a plane ticket a few days ago for $408. Less than 5 hours later I got a notification that it had reduced to $357. That's free market, folks.


Southwest refunds you that difference, not that anyone is super jazzed about flying SW right now.
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
10207 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 9:32 pm to
I laugh at all those Tesla owners.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14969 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 9:34 pm to
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I laugh at all those Tesla owners.


We laugh at your goofy face and fat wife. It evens out.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
22215 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 9:37 pm to
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Markets react to conditions on a constant and persistent basis.


Yeah and teslas have been absolutely cratering in value, even compared to luxury brands, and an auto manufacturers best asset, it's repeat customer, will not forget this happening.
This post was edited on 1/16/23 at 9:38 pm
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
10207 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 9:37 pm to
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We laugh at your goofy face and fat wife. It evens out.


I touched a nerve. Sorry you drive a Tesla fig.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
19016 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 9:40 pm to
A likely liberal complaining about Wild pricing swings due to government subsidies. Hopefully a lesson learned about government meddling in markets.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
22215 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 9:44 pm to
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Lol at being mad at a company for LOWERING their prices.


Lol I'm not mad. Teslas are pieces of crap and this price decrease is proving my point, this is an awful look for tesla.
This post was edited on 1/16/23 at 9:45 pm
Posted by philter
Member since Dec 2004
8967 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 9:48 pm to
Tesla has broken sales records this year, delivering over 1 million vehicles. Year over year and quarter over quarter increases.

shite on them if you don't like them, but they are still the boss and lowering prices is not going to make people stop buying them.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
22215 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 9:59 pm to
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but they are still the boss and lowering prices is not going to make people stop buying them.


Their market share is being cut into by the other manufacturers evs debuting and it will only get worse.
Posted by Kitonja
Member since Dec 2022
174 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 10:17 pm to
Lol I have a coworker who paid 70k at 7% like a month ago. It was a model Y. Not only did he not qualify for the rebate but the idiot didn't seem to care about getting scammed 17k after it was mentioned to him.
This post was edited on 1/16/23 at 10:20 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111718 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 10:24 pm to
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Their market share is being cut into by the other manufacturers evs debuting and it will only get worse.
People confuse market share decreasing with sales falling off.

Tesla will lose market share and sales will also increase at the same time.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111718 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 10:25 pm to
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but the idiot didn't seem to care about getting scammed 17k after it was mentioned to him.
How did he get scammed?
Posted by UncleLester
West of the Mississippi
Member since Aug 2008
7636 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 10:36 pm to
At all costs, let’s please avoid taking these people to the Hallmark store the day after Christmas.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
9058 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 10:36 pm to
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Yeah auto makers routinely drop the msrp of brand new vehicles over 10k all the time.


Well there is your mistake. You are assuming Tesla is a traditional car brand when it is actually more akin to a High Def television in 2005.

Like Tesla, they were new technology entering a saturated, mature, existing market. The new tech did not have a lot of infrastructure (charging stations/programming) to support the technology, but it was growing exponentially. If you had waited until say 2008, that same HD television was half the cost...or the same money got you a larger, more advanced HD television. And a LOT more programming, and hopefully for Tesla owners, additional charging stations/options.

For another analogy, see cell phones vs pagers circa 1990.
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