re: I don't respect people when they tell me they believe in ghosts

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I'm a scientist by training. Go read the book Flatland by Edwin Abbot and get back to me.

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These are the threads when the self-purported "science believers" (funny how it's hard to think of a better word than "believer") out themselves as to how little they actually understand the process of science and how narrow-minded they actually are in regard to the mysteries of our universe, which we've barely begun to scratch the surface of.

In reality, they're not "pro-science;" they're "anti-supernatural," which ironically is how everything that is now understood scientifically would once have been described.

They'd make terrible scientists.

Long flowing hair and feminine facial features.

Need me to explain gender to you?

I’ll save us both time here… I’m not here to convince you ghosts are real. Believe what you want, I really don’t give a shite. My BIL doesn’t hang out on message boards and tell his ghost story. I’m just providing it because I believe him. He’s one of the most trusted people I know. Hell he puts up with my sister. If he says he saw one, good enough for me.

You best start believin in ghost stories, you’re in ome!

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Everyone should maintain a sense of wonder. You lose that and you are a propagandist dream.

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and boring

My Dad used to tell us a story about Ghosty Ghost when we were under 5. It was terrible, I think he made it up himself.

Are you Christian? Or just don’t respect them either?

Ghosts are records of physical activity that occurred some time in the past. Frequently, ghosts are appear to walk through walls and other obstructions unhindered.

Consider that computer chips are made of silicon, essentially a rock. So is concrete.

A building has been constructed with a concrete slab that continues to cure over the course of time as the building process continues. As that concrete cures it is recording impressions of what is going on around it. It's essentially a huge computer chip being encoded with information as it cures.

Some time later, when the building has been completed, atmospheric conditions occur which cause the playback of these recorded images in such a manner that they are perceptible by humans. We see images of individuals - possibly the construction workers who were building the project- seemingly walk through walls and continue on their journey through the building.

Why would they seem to pass through walls?
Consider that the walls and partitions were constructed after the concrete slab was poured and while it was curing. Thet concrete has picked up the data of the workmen traveling through the building prior to the erection of those interior walls. Of COURSE they appear to walk through walls. They aren't real entities, they are only a record of a previous occurrence. They can only be observed. You cannot interact with them.

Similarly, sounds and other sensory data can be recorded by curing concrete.

Do I have proof of this, or has this train of thought ever appeared anywhere else? No. Not as far as I know. I'm probably the only reformed pot-head that has come up with crazy crap like this, but it makes as much sense to me as the Matrix did to its writers.

Maybe I need to start my old habits and see if I can warp my brain enough to finish these ponderings and come to a conclusion.

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I think the consensus is they are not of this world/dimension and as such our physics do not apply and our instruments can't detect them.

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How convenient!

What if a person described in detail a situation that occurred involving sounds and things moving with no visible cause?

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People in the 1600s didn't, and couldn't, conceive of a cell phone. Why not be open to something going on we just cannot fathom yet?

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Do you feel the same about pots of gold at the end of rainbows? Unicorns?

What about the most famous ghost of all?