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re: I am really feeling bad for the family of the pilot in the helicopter tragedy
Posted on 1/29/20 at 12:24 pm to Rocket Surgeon
Posted on 1/29/20 at 12:24 pm to Rocket Surgeon
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Not filing an IFR flight plan does render the instruments inoperable.
Wut? Please tell me more, this is confusing.
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 12:25 pm to Abadeebadaba
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Wut? Please tell me more, this is confusing.
pretty sure he left off the n't
Posted on 1/29/20 at 12:42 pm to Rouge
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With all of this news coming out, that entire family is about to get the Steve Bartman treatment.
Not even the same thing.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:11 pm to udtiger
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My suspicion is this was not the worst conditions this pilot has flown in (especially with Bryant on board)
Kobe flew at least once a week. No doubt they'd flown in similar conditions.
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:49 pm to 777Tiger
quote:Well that makes a lot more sense.
pretty sure he left off the n't
Posted on 1/29/20 at 2:43 pm to bad93ex
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You have to wonder if he was forced to fly in those terrible conditions.
This
Posted on 1/29/20 at 2:53 pm to Abadeebadaba
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Not filing an IFR flight plan does render the instruments inoperable.
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Wut? Please tell me more, this is confusing.
If you file a VFR flight plan, the air traffic controller comes to your plane and unplugs the instrument cluster. I thought everyone knew this.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 8:13 am to SDVTiger
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Dude started off melting down on the Poliboard
Come on, you lying POS.
This is three times I've asked for a link.
I have made very few posts on the Poliboard. Exactly zero about this crash that I remember.
Now, post the link admit you are liar trying to flex those e-muscles for the rest your butt buddies on the board.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 8:19 am to Rocket Surgeon
worked with a guy last night that is a liaison to the NTSB for us, he's not working this investigation, and we didn't talk in depth about this because we were busy conducting a check ride, but he said that, through talking with some of his NTSB contacts, that it appears the pilot did see what was coming and made evasive action/correction and came very close to avoiding the terrain, missed it by that much
Posted on 1/30/20 at 8:28 am to TH03
Look like the "experts" here might have been wrong.
The pilot requested more altitude to get of a cloud bank (fog).
The helicopter then began to plummet.
Sounds like a problem developed and he wanted to set it down.
That's a pretty fast rate of descent. They were definitely headed down...AFTER HE REQUESTED PERMISSION TO CLIMB!
Final moments before helicopter crash revealed by investigators
The pilot requested more altitude to get of a cloud bank (fog).
The helicopter then began to plummet.
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The NTSB has provided an account of the final moments of the flight, confirming that the helicopter plummeted for a full minute before hitting a hillside and bursting into flames.
Pilot Ara Zobayan requested clearance to increase altitude to climb out of a cloud bank, before making a sharp left descending turn.
Sounds like a problem developed and he wanted to set it down.
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The aircraft then fell 2,000 feet at 26 mph before hitting the ground.
That's a pretty fast rate of descent. They were definitely headed down...AFTER HE REQUESTED PERMISSION TO CLIMB!
Final moments before helicopter crash revealed by investigators
Posted on 1/30/20 at 9:23 am to dallastiger55
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flown A list celebrities for 30 years and 90% of the time when he tells them it’s not ok to fly they overrule him and tell him they don’t care and need to get there ASAP
Yep, I would bet that m Kobe told the pilot that this was his tournament, opening day, and that he needed to arrive on time and to go ahead even in the inclement weather conditions.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 9:39 am to Rouge
people make mistakes
Posted on 1/30/20 at 9:47 am to spacewrangler
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I would bet that m Kobe told the pilot that this was his tournament, opening day, and that he needed to arrive on time and to go ahead even in the inclement weather conditions.
possibly but I doubt if that influenced the pilot's decision to go
Posted on 1/30/20 at 9:48 am to Rouge
If the pilot's family is still on social media today, they should fully expect what's coming to them.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 9:50 am to Rocket Surgeon
quote:Your realize this could be due to him actually flying down because of spatial disorientation correct?
That's a pretty fast rate of descent. They were definitely headed down...AFTER HE REQUESTED PERMISSION TO CLIMB!
Posted on 1/30/20 at 9:55 am to lsupride87
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That's a pretty fast rate of descent. They were definitely headed down...AFTER HE REQUESTED PERMISSION TO CLIMB!
Your realize this could be due to him actually flying down because of spatial disorientation correct?
It could also be that the data was recording the chopper's movements AFTER it clipped the top of the hill
Posted on 1/30/20 at 10:00 am to Rocket Surgeon
But you advise ATC and switch to IFR, or ask for a vector/routing back to VFR or VFR "on top" of cloud deck.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 10:10 am to Rouge
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With all of this news coming out, that entire family is about to get the Steve Bartman treatment.
Doubt it. It was his action and he's dead. Doubt his family will suffer much from the public over it.
Since he flew this route many times, and the weather was so poor, how is it he was going that fast in the fog? I don't get it at all. Just seems so senseless.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 10:39 am to Possumslayer
quote:And that gravity stuff.
I blame the earth.
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