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re: I am really feeling bad for the family of the pilot in the helicopter tragedy

Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:05 am to
Posted by HuskyPanda
Philly
Member since Feb 2018
2252 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:05 am to
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You have to wonder if he was forced to fly in those terrible conditions.


According to a a former pilot that used to fly for Kobe, he never once forced him to fly. Kobe would just say "Do your thing" and just wanted privacy.

However, I read that another pilot for celebs stated that there was always some sort of pressure to get to where they wanted to go.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179350 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:10 am to
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You have to wonder if he was forced to fly in those terrible conditions.




Other pilots have come forward that flew for Kobe in the past and all have said he was completely professional and never pressured anyone. Apparently Kobe believed in trusting people trained in their fields.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:14 am to
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The guy had an immaculate flying history in regards to safety.


To be honest most pilots (that are still alive) do. Unfortunately it’s a profession with no room for error or mistakes
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:21 am to
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To be honest most pilots (that are still alive) do. Unfortunately it’s a profession with no room for error or mistakes


There's old pilots and there's bold pilots.

There are no old, bold pilots.

Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33740 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:23 am to
quote:

The guy had an immaculate flying history in regards to safety.

Sometimes an accident is just an accident.
Like a naval aviator told me once,... some days it's better to be on the deck wishing you were flying than to be flying wishing you were on the deck....
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
20062 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:26 am to
quote:

Steve Bartman treatment.


Different but the guy got hounded. The Cubs actually gave him a 2016 World Series ring to make amends.
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
26138 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:31 am to
This has been around for a long time but even today it still serves as a reminder to those who fly it or maintain it.

Posted by Rocket Surgeon
Member since Jan 2020
696 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:36 am to
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Idk.

Flying at 200 mph with zero visibility in mountainous terrain and at an altitude below nearby peaks seems more negligent than accident.

Can we get your credentials that qualify you to make this judgement?

Experienced helicopter pilot? NTSB accident investigator? Jackass with a keyboard and an Internet connection?

The rest of you "experts" in the thread. Please list qualifications along with the conclusions of your accident investigations.
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 8:51 am
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
45120 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:39 am to
Should have hired S's pilot
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93200 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:43 am to
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Can we get your credentials that qualify you to make this judgement?


It's not a judgement those are facts
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:44 am to
Yeah and most of those will forget about him in a week or so.


Life goes on.
Posted by Rocket Surgeon
Member since Jan 2020
696 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:45 am to
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It's not a judgement those are facts

Your stupid arse doesn't have a clue.

How do you know there was not a fire? A mechanical issue? A medical emergency with the pilot?

Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17618 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:47 am to
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I believe the angle of the OP is that those people will blame the pilot for their deaths



Honestly, the pilot should be blamed. There were a series of avoidable blunders we know about not including what we suppose to be pressure from Kobe to "get there"

It's going to really suck for the family when the pilot's estate is drained from the liability lawsuits forthcoming.
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 8:56 am
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17618 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:49 am to
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The rest of you "experts" in the thread. Please list qualifications along with the conclusions of your accident investigations.


I have read every one of 777Tiger's posts with rabid attention
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 8:50 am
Posted by Rocket Surgeon
Member since Jan 2020
696 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:50 am to
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Honestly, the pilot should be blamed. There were a serious of avoidable blunders we know about not including what we suppose to be pressure from Kobe to "get there"

Well frick us running.

Somebody call the NTSB and cancel the investigation.

Inspector Clouseau has closed the case.

Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
36781 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:50 am to
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Honestly, the pilot should be blamed.

There were a serious of avoidable blunders we know about


What were those?
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 8:53 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93200 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:52 am to
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Your stupid arse doesn't have a clue.

How do you know there was not a fire? A mechanical issue? A medical emergency with the pilot?



Just stop. He flew into a mountain. You are a moron
Posted by Rocket Surgeon
Member since Jan 2020
696 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:53 am to
quote:

There were a serious of avoidable blunders we know about
quote:

What were those?

He doesn't have a clue.

The pilot was fully qualified and rated to fly in the conditions they were in.

"It's foggy. You can't fly in fog."
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33740 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:53 am to
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It's going to really suck for the family when the pilot's estate is drained from the liability lawsuits forthcoming
If it's like most of those situations he is an employee of the aircraft owner/lessee and they are the ones responsible.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73097 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:54 am to
this seems really dramatic. i've seen no twitter mobs you reference and don't get me wrong, Twitter is a really shitty place.
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