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Posted on 3/4/26 at 11:13 am to Homey the Clown
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I'm not an engineer. But I've been working in the engineering field for almost 20 years. Commercial and industrial. There's a reason the plants call us to to have our P.E. run calcs for suggestions that their on staff engineer, who isn't a P.E. comes up with. Because their on staff engineer isn't qualified to do so. Same reason our employees with engineering degrees have their work checked by our P.E.s.
and yet when you send in your calcs and drawings to someone at the plant like me, i have to go through it and fix all the mistakes because the guys at the firm were too fricking lazy to get out of their chair and actually come walk the job instead of just looking at the scan. also too lazy to grab the operator to walk the job with them and explain how he uses the equipment every day
also the non licensed staff guys like me catch issues on calcs all the time
and ftr that is not why plants use firms. Most of the insurance companies and certain certifications require 3rd party stamped drawings and calcs not to mention a plant isnt going to spend a million a year in software license to have it used 4-5 times a year by employees who are not efficient at using it because they never do it. That would be stupid and the staff guy has way better things to do and makes a lot more than the firm guy.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 11:16 am to Loup
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yeah y'all gotta name every document a series of numbers and letters that make no sense then have a document register listing them with more reference numbers then a damn index so you're having to jump through hoops to figure out what 3 of the 3,757 specs included with the 2 ISOs are relevant
To be fair, 90% of the time that is client driven and we don’t have a choice on how we structure/number the drawings in a work package.
I’m an EE and agree a lot of engineers make shite way more complicated than it should be, and design stuff off theory instead of real world. But not all of us are like that.
I worked for an electrical contractor in refineries/chem plants over the summer while getting my degree. I honestly think that gave me more knowledge for what I do every day than college did. Should be mandatory to spend time in the field before getting a degree.
This post was edited on 3/4/26 at 11:18 am
Posted on 3/4/26 at 11:17 am to RoosterCogburn585
engineers serve a purpose, to absorb liability. unless the drawings say otherwise 
Posted on 3/4/26 at 11:18 am to RoosterCogburn585
Engineers and O rings F’d up the oilfield.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 11:59 am to lsu777
We walk down every single project with operations, the client PM, and safety prior to even getting our scan crews out there. And its highly unlikely yall make more than our P.Es do.This post was edited on 3/4/26 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 3/4/26 at 12:00 pm to RoosterCogburn585
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And I think engineers love to overcomplicate issues
Everyone is different. Don't overcomplicate the issue
Posted on 3/4/26 at 12:01 pm to RoosterCogburn585
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I am an engineer
Already making things more complicated than they have to be.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 12:08 pm to Homey the Clown
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We walk down every single project with operations, and safety prior to even getting our scan crews out there. And its highly unlikely yall make more than our P.Es do.
umm senior engineers make more in salary and the benefits are 10x better, retirement alone makes working at a firm not worth it. I've worked all over....an engineer for a firm is a much worse job in most cases. Now in a place like Houston, maybe even Dallas that might not be the case but in LA it is. I Could get my PE at anytime but I'm not paying for the class and work sees no use in it so they aren't going to pay, I wouldn't even get a pay bump for getting it. Its essentially useless for most that work in the plant.
and yea yall walk it one time and never go back. Trust me...i have done over 100 projects with firms, nothing annoys me more than the engineer that doesn't come out. and ftr not every engineer even does what you said. many just send the scan crew out and that's it. I had a former LA Tech Professor that worked for a firm doing a project for me as the civil on the project....dude couldn't even get in the plant because he didn't have a twic card. not to mention many times firms are 3+ hours away
Posted on 3/4/26 at 12:21 pm to RoosterCogburn585
Engineer
How long have you been driving a train?
Cargo or Amtrak?
How long have you been driving a train?
Cargo or Amtrak?
Posted on 3/4/26 at 12:41 pm to RoosterCogburn585
also an engineer and you are absolutely correct. I like to pride myself on being pragmatic, efficient, and easy going
Posted on 3/4/26 at 12:44 pm to Fat and Happy
Always start with the potential consequences you’re trying to prevent, then decide how crazy you need to get.
Being skilled at consequence analyses is a big part of being a decent engineer.
Being skilled at consequence analyses is a big part of being a decent engineer.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 12:50 pm to RoosterCogburn585
Are you a Licensed PE or do you just have and engineering degree? I understand theres a difference.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 12:54 pm to lsu777
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lsu777
No offense but the reason most people hate engineers and youth baseball are because of dudes like you
You’ve dropped too many breadcrumbs
Once again, no offense intended
This post was edited on 3/4/26 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 3/4/26 at 1:05 pm to RoosterCogburn585
There are tons of engineers out there that I call "Engineers in Degree Only" that aren't actually engineers
Posted on 3/4/26 at 1:07 pm to Sun God
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No offense but the reason most people hate engineers and youth baseball are because of dudes like you
no most people hate engineers for the exact reason OP talked about
and as far as youth baseball...i only like pissing yall off about it.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 1:07 pm to RoosterCogburn585
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I am an engineer
Posted on 3/4/26 at 1:10 pm to lsu777
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no most people hate engineers for the exact reason OP talked about and as far as youth baseball...i only like pissing yall off about it.
I graduated and worked in engineering (PETE 2011)
Why would I hate them
Definitely agree with your second point though
It’s nice of you to admit it
This post was edited on 3/4/26 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 3/4/26 at 1:16 pm to Sun God
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Why would I hate them
shite i work as one and i hate them half the time.
its love hate, half I love and think they are amazing, half get on my nerves cause their fricking lazy
but i guess thats anything. i had the same feelings in project management and pretty much every job i have ever worked.
and of course i like pissing off people on youth baseball, why you think i posted the thing about the automatic ball strike AI thing 2D is implementing in their tournaments.....it pisses off the old heads big time
Posted on 3/4/26 at 1:18 pm to RoosterCogburn585
A physicist, mathematician and engineer were asked to determine the volume of a red rubber ball.
The physicist filled a beaker with water, immersed the ball, caught the runoff and measured its volume.
The mathematician set up and solved an appropriate triple integral, then measured the diameter of the ball and plugged in the number.
The engineer looked around on his bookshelf, then asked,
"Has anyone got a red rubber ball volume table? I've only got the ones for blue and purple."
The physicist filled a beaker with water, immersed the ball, caught the runoff and measured its volume.
The mathematician set up and solved an appropriate triple integral, then measured the diameter of the ball and plugged in the number.
The engineer looked around on his bookshelf, then asked,
"Has anyone got a red rubber ball volume table? I've only got the ones for blue and purple."
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